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YouTube/TikTok/social media golfers will never teach you anything - that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

They'll do as you said, contradict each other to the point that you have no idea what's going on or what's right. Everyone is built different so each swing is different - you absolutely need someone to analyse not only your swing, but your posture. I put a lot of weight on my left side at address with my irons because I struggle to put a lot of power through my ankles (years of volleyball and torn ligaments have trashed them) but one of the online half-wits will tell me I'm doing it wrong and to 'do this instead'.

I used to have a horrendous issue with slicing my driver - a friend told me to do what he did and it should fix it. Lo-and-behold, the slice was worse. Watched God knows how many YouTube videos and none of them fixed it, either.

Had a lesson with a PGA pro who had my driver going straight as an arrow 90% of the time because he was able to tell me exactly what I was doing wrong and corrected it.

Anyway, slight rant over! :D
 
Watched this yesterday, which I reckon would help too.

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Grip is definitely a helper/hindrance for certain release patterns.
I've had a very terrible release pattern since I started, I tend to try to keep the face as square as much as possible throughout the swing, which in-essence is reducing speed in the clubhead and consistency.
The best thing I've found out recently, it the less I care about managing the clubface at impact, the better and more consistent my shots are. The more I try to manage the clubface during the downswing, the worst my shots are, big lefts, fats, thins etc..
The only way to be consistent for me, is to "let it happen", then fix things like grip and path to get the swing in the best position, ready for the downswing to just happen.
 
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It's interesting. I can grip the club differently by rolling my left hand slightly more under, as well as the right, so that the thumbs are less in line and more of a gap between them. This seems to control the release and stop me rolling the wrists over, but it feels alien and like I have no control in other ways. A bit like when a club is too heavy for you as a kid. I'm not sure I can ever learn to grip differently basically. My grip is my grip. It's very firm and anything different feels wrong.
Do you guys alter your grip based on club or shot type, or always keep it the same?
 
Always the same for me, obviously unless its putting.
Might be worth going to the range and hitting a few balls with different grip feels.
Then analyse if the chicken wing is still there. Only costs a bucket of balls and an hour of your time.
 
@jaybee TBH mate I'd abandon the Youtube tips all together, as well as anything anyone else might have to say including us. It's in a Youtubers best interest to generalize a golf swing and give the broadest range of tips but in reality everyone's swing is different and even the slightest adjustment not properly implemented could throw up a whole host of new issues. Go see a qualified pro who can observe and analyze a specific set of problems that you yourself have.

I gave up on the Youtube tips last year and just worked on what my teacher thought where the most prominent issues and my games gotten a ton better as a result. If you keep over analyzing yourself then swing thoughts will never end.

Edit: Having written all that I see that you do mention getting lessons... damn ADD forcing me to skim read xD
 
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MarkA said:
Grip is definitely a helper/hindrance for certain release patterns.
I've had a very terrible release pattern since I started, I tend to try to keep the face as square as much as possible throughout the swing, which in-essence is reducing speed in the clubhead and consistency.
The best thing I've found out recently, it the less I care about managing the clubface at impact, the better and more consistent my shots are. The more I try to manage the clubface during the downswing, the worst my shots are, big lefts, fats, thins etc..
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Yep. First thing my teacher did was get me to loosen my grip and KEEP that grip consistent throughout the swing so I wouldn't try to control the face as much. Felt exceptionally loose at first but it was the first time I ever really 'felt' where the club head was during the swing simply because I wasn't fighting for control. Manufacturers spend millions engineering clubs that are designed to hit square at impact, any involvement from us to try and over complicate that engineering process is somewhat counter intuitive.

Of course, there's a hundred other things that can happen in the swing to throw that face off line, but that's for the teacher to sort out :cry:
 
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MarkA said:
Why not try Arccos? It's basically free for the first month and they send you free sensors to put in your clubs.
I love it and the data it gives you, if you're willing the spend the time diving in to see your data, is incredibly useful.

If you fancy trying it, I can gain my sending you a referral.
I used golfpad for 18 months and it's less than £20 a year, but all the shot data is manually inputted.
I used to hit my watch before every stroke, scroll to select the club and rinse/repeat on every shot. Arccos does all that for me now. Both good in their own way.
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Thanks for the offer, but for now I will wait and see what Golfshot support come back with, if anything. Much prefer to use a free option than paying for something I might not get on with.
 
Youtubers are there to maximise their revenue, it's their job in most cases after all.

Video Titles like "fix your slice in 10 minutes" etc get people watching.

I wouldn't take anything from youtube videos personally. If your getting lessons, or considering lessons, stick with one pro and go with it. Even different pro's will teach different things in different ways.

Too much information in golf is a bad thing.

Keep it simple - Have a pre shot routine and stick to it every time. I got a pre "putt" routine that is the same every single time over a 20ft putt or a 2ft putt. Lot of mates wonder why I bother with the same routine over a 2ft putt. Consistency for me. Rarely 3 putt, and putting is a massive strength of my game.

I need to work on a proper pre-shot routine for everything else - that's still work in progress.
 
booyaka said:
Youtubers are there to maximise their revenue, it's their job in most cases after all.

Video Titles like "fix your slice in 10 minutes" etc get people watching.

I wouldn't take anything from youtube videos personally. If your getting lessons, or considering lessons, stick with one pro and go with it. Even different pro's will teach different things in different ways.

Too much information in golf is a bad thing.

Keep it simple - Have a pre shot routine and stick to it every time. I got a pre "putt" routine that is the same every single time over a 20ft putt or a 2ft putt. Lot of mates wonder why I bother with the same routine over a 2ft putt. Consistency for me. Rarely 3 putt, and putting is a massive strength of my game.

I need to work on a proper pre-shot routine for everything else - that's still work in progress.
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Exactly right. I've mentioned it before but Lee Westwood said something that's stuck with me for an age. "You need to build a routine on the range so you've got something to fall back on out here (the course). Without a solid routine the course will swallow you up and you'll be a slave to compounding errors".
 
MarkA said:
I hate Scott Cameron.
He makes frikkin lovely putters and wants me to open my wallet time and time again! :cry:
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Do it..... :cry:

I bought one 16 years ago and it's never left my bag since.... Would love a blackout one at some point but would feel like I was cheating on my existing Scotty!
 
Superpatsy said:
YouTube/TikTok/social media golfers will never teach you anything - that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

They'll do as you said, contradict each other to the point that you have no idea what's going on or what's right. Everyone is built different so each swing is different - you absolutely need someone to analyse not only your swing, but your posture. I put a lot of weight on my left side at address with my irons because I struggle to put a lot of power through my ankles (years of volleyball and torn ligaments have trashed them) but one of the online half-wits will tell me I'm doing it wrong and to 'do this instead'.

I used to have a horrendous issue with slicing my driver - a friend told me to do what he did and it should fix it. Lo-and-behold, the slice was worse. Watched God knows how many YouTube videos and none of them fixed it, either.

Had a lesson with a PGA pro who had my driver going straight as an arrow 90% of the time because he was able to tell me exactly what I was doing wrong and corrected it.

Anyway, slight rant over! :D
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I’ve watched plenty of videos on YouTube, and one short video clip seems to have fixed me slicing the ball with my driver. A couple more rounds to be sure, but fingers crossed
 
booyaka said:
Not a mallet putter guy - but that's lovely!!

Scotty hotness!!!
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Clubs have gotten so Civic Type R!

On that note... I have an Odessey white hot Putter from about ten years ago, with a superstroke 3.0 grip on it. I like it, but I feel it's well short for me. It's 34 inches. What would be the cost to get my rod extended? ;) I take it the heads are the same regardless of shaft length? i.e. It's not going to throw out the balance at all?

Google says as a rough guide: (I'm 6ft2)

Height – Putter Length Fitting Chart

  • Under 5′ – 32 inches or less
  • 5’0″ to 5’2″ – 32.5 inches
  • 5’2″ to 5’4″ – 33 inches
  • 5’4″ to 5’6″ – 33.5 inches
  • 5’6″ to 5’8″ – 34 inches
  • 5’8″ to 6’0″ – 34.5 inches
  • 6’0″ to 6’2″ – 35 inches
  • 6’2″ to 6’4″ – 35.5 inches
  • Over 6’4″ – 36 inches
 
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Back to Brinkworth today, that's where I played the front 9 after the normal round Friday Afternoon, so today we played the back 9.

Not a bad course really, on the cheaper end of the scale but I don't mind that. Got some interesting challenges.

So Hot. So very very hot :p

Played decent, made a complete hash of the last hole but otherwise 'ok'.

Got another 9 holes booked tomorrow afternoon (can't do morning cause of meetings, boo), that's gonna be another toasty one it seems, what's up with this mini-heatwave...
 
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Did something interesting the last couple of days. When it was slow, went out to a flat hole and at the 150 marker, tested various shots and swing levels to see what yardages I’m getting. That’s the range I need to get my confidence up in and just know what I’m hitting and have less to think about.

Maybe an idea that can help others.
 
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jaybee said:
Clubs have gotten so Civic Type R!

On that note... I have an Odessey white hot Putter from about ten years ago, with a superstroke 3.0 grip on it. I like it, but I feel it's well short for me. It's 34 inches. What would be the cost to get my rod extended? ;) I take it the heads are the same regardless of shaft length? i.e. It's not going to throw out the balance at all?

Google says as a rough guide: (I'm 6ft2)

Height – Putter Length Fitting Chart

  • Under 5′ – 32 inches or less
  • 5’0″ to 5’2″ – 32.5 inches
  • 5’2″ to 5’4″ – 33 inches
  • 5’4″ to 5’6″ – 33.5 inches
  • 5’6″ to 5’8″ – 34 inches
  • 5’8″ to 6’0″ – 34.5 inches
  • 6’0″ to 6’2″ – 35 inches
  • 6’2″ to 6’4″ – 35.5 inches
  • Over 6’4″ – 36 inches
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I'm 6ft3" and use a 34" putter. And I grip down it a little as well.

Never been an issue for me- I think you can get "plug" inserts to extend a putter etc.
 
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