Good news for Scotland (and the rest of us)..

Its interesting that some base their views seemingly on her performance at a few press conferences but completely ignore the hatred and division she presided over and the poor outcomes for Scotland as a whole over the last decade.

There's even a couple of fanboys in this thread which is just bizarre.

I base my views on my personal experience; spoiler: I actually live in Scotland and don't need to rely on the Telegraph to form an opinion on my behalf.
 
I base my views on my personal experience; spoiler: I actually live in Scotland and don't need to rely on the Telegraph to form an opinion on my behalf.


well maybe if you got your news from multiple sources you wouldn't fall for Scottish nationalists propaganda and might start to question the SNP and Sturgeons extremely poor performance over the last 10 years
 
well maybe if you got your news from multiple sources you wouldn't fall for Scottish nationalists propaganda and might start to question the SNP and Sturgeons extremely poor performance over the last 10 years

Again, I don't need news outlets from any source or propaganda of any kind - I have personal experience to rely on because I'm one of their constituents. I get what I vote for and I'm content with the outcome no matter what the Telegraph would like me to think.
 
Again, I don't need news outlets from any source or propaganda of any kind - I have personal experience to rely on because I'm one of their constituents. I get what I vote for and I'm content with the outcome no matter what the Telegraph would like me to think.


So basically as long as you are ok screw all the alcoholics and drug addicts and the lives they ruin?
 
You're not seriously suggesting Nicola was worse than Alex? Alex did wonders for the SNP and independence but the cause was taken further under Sturgeon than anything Salmond did.
Salmond got the referendum.

I can see how Sturgeon was better in areas too. That's why they worked well together previously.

I don't think Sturgeon had the temperament to get another referendum. When you're in a minority in the UK then confrontation won't end well.

Independence doesn't come from antagonizing the other side.
 
Actually doing some analysis on this at the moment for my work - whilst your 'personal experience' may vary, anecdotes don't make analyses... ;)

Scotland really has done pretty poorly under Sturgeon - in relative, comparative and absolute terms. Fiscal performance (esp. economic efficiency and funding distribution has been atrocious and deteriorated), most government departments have increasingly lagged their UK peers (eg education, health etc).

More interestingly, the directional parameters (ie if you compare the polls that are undertaken that highlight the public's priorities and then the allocation of effort in the government to those goals) have gone completely awry - in short, Sturgeon was getting worse and worse in focusing on things that the public didn't care about, whilst ignoring the big challenges.

With no obvious successor, she's probably failed in the last vestige of leadership - ie ensuring succession.

I'm not convinced that at least the educated history will see her as anything other than a talented populist demogogue....!
 
Its interesting that some base their views seemingly on her performance at a few press conferences but completely ignore the hatred and division she presided over and the poor outcomes for Scotland as a whole over the last decade.

There's even a couple of fanboys in this thread which is just bizarre.

Given your vocal contributions in here, I think it justified for us to know your political allegiances i.e. party and policies voted for (Brexit vote)?


ok.. worse outcomes than England

I'm sure you.can detail them here and I'm also sure there are a list of outcomes in Scotland that are better than England.


I'm lucky enough to live in England with all the benefits that comes with.

Let's hear these benefits...


Stand by your opinions.... Let's hear the above questions answered
 
Given your vocal contributions in here, I think it justified for us to know your political allegiances i.e. party and policies voted for (Brexit vote)?




I'm sure you.can detail them here and I'm also sure there are a list of outcomes in Scotland that are better than England.




Let's hear these benefits...


Stand by your opinions.... Let's hear the above questions answered


Lol on question 1

question 2:

DRUGS:

Drugs-related deaths have more than doubled during Ms Sturgeon’s time in office, with the numbers hitting record highs for seven years in a row.

During that time the country has become a world narcotics hotspot, with addiction claiming the most victims there per head of the population.

In 2014, the year she took over, 614 people died from overdoses. In 2020, the number hit an all-time high of 1,339, falling slightly to 1,330 a year later.

NHS:

Scotland’s health service is in an even worse state than the NHS elsewhere in the UK, with criticism of the SNP’s management of it growing louder.

The NHS there has only hit its accident and emergency target of hospitals seeing 95 per cent of patients within four hours for 19 out of her 99 months in office.

Performance has fallen off a cliff since the summer of 2020 and hit a new low in December, with just 62 per cent of people admitted being examined on time.

FAILED NANNY STATE:

Scotland’s leader has become known for being an interventionist, with critics accusing her of a nanny state style which has failed to deliver results.

In 2018, after a long legal battle with the drinks industry, she introduced minimum unit pricing for alcohol in a bid to tackle booze-related deaths.

Three years later a report found that heavy drinkers were cutting back on their food and heating costs, instead of reducing their consumption.

Scottish officials defended the policy by pointing to overall figures which showed a three per cent net reduction in sales in the three years after it was introduced.

But in a tacit admission that it has not been a total success, Ms Sturgeon has unveiled plans to go further by curbing the advertising of alcohol.

Critics have warned the move risks doing huge damage to the country’s economy whilst “doing little to tackle consumption by problem drinkers”

LIFE EXPECTANCY:

The life expectancy of Scottish people has plummeted during Ms Sturgeon’s time in power, recording its sharpest fall in 40 years.

Men born today in the country are predicted to live to the age of 77, which is two years less than in England and the lowest figure for anywhere in the UK.

Women have a life expectancy of 81, but both numbers have fallen since peaking shortly after the First Minister took up her post.

Source:


Question 3 - not being affected by the above for starters lol
 
Lol on question 1

question 2:

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Question 3 - not being affected by the above for starters lol

How embarrassing for you... You answer the 1 question that you feel will be advantageous to your arguments but skirt around or downright avoid the others.
 
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That seems well put.

In my youth I wasn't overly keen on Scottish independence, I suppose in an immature way it felt like a rejection of "us" more that anything. But who could possibly blame the Scottish people for wanting indepence from the shambles of Westminster and London centric politics, good luck to them.
 
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