Good news for Scotland (and the rest of us)..

Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant when gauging the impact a political party has had on the electorate - what nonsense is this? Seriously, what level of idiot would reject their eyes and ears in favour of an article written by an agenda driven journalist?

And the comment about my place of work - what on earth is that point you're trying to make? What straw are you clutching at there? You really are miles out of your depth with this conversation.

Yes, I work offshore. The same industry I worked in back in 2014 when friends where telling me about a secret oil field that the big bad English where hiding from us, a field so abundant in resources that it could fund independence for decades. Funnily enough I didn't need to read any articles about this oil field, because it was so secret that I'd been working on it's brownfield enabling projects for the previous 4 years - a reservoir so abundant that it's struggling to achieve even half of it's planned production almost 10 years on.

It's called anecdotal evidence for a reason. It has it's place, particularly when you're assessing the impact that party policy has had on the electorate - when you are the electorate! Oh, I wonder if it's raining outside. Will I check AccuWeather? BBC weather? Sean Batty? Maybe I could open the curtains and look. :p


Lol what sort of 'idiot' would take anecdotal evidence over factual evidence ultimately based on undisputed govt stats?

You are the one clutching at straws as your support for Sturgeon seems to be based on 'feels' not facts.

RE your place of work I'm just suggesting that maybe someone who chooses to spend a long time away from Scotland may have the blinkers on lol..
 
I can't help think you're both actually arguing the same side of the debate!?

Anecdotal evidence is not statistical or particularly enlightening - the fact we call it 'anecdotal evidence' is much like calling something 'weak evidence' doesn't make it good!

I think the flaw in the analogy (ie opening the curtains to look) is that you can't 'open the curtains' and look at 5m people's individual lives, all the complexity of services, education levels, health etc - hence we use data....!
 
It's also the factoring of Scotland's economy is highly distributed, low scalability that means anything North of the Forth is a lower GDP value to the country anyway (excluding the oil and a few others of course).

Don't forget the fish. And the whisky. And energy.
 
Heh, good ones, just I was talking specifically about GDP contribution, not 'things that we do in Scotland' - given whisky, fish etc must account for less than 1% of UK GDP.... so not the most canny positions to barter with ;)

And don't lump us Welsh in that English bucket - we produce plenty of rain I'll have you know.... ;)
 
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Is she getting pushed out?
No, but she knows she's taking them as far as she can.

Truth is the polls were going further away from independence so she knew the writing was on the wall for her.

It gets to a stage where you just have to give someone else the chance to do what cant be done.
 
OMG where did that come from lol - must frequent some sort of Krankie fan site?

I bet they have posters on their wall lol

That’s probably the most cringe thing I’ve seen on here :D
 
Of course if you move past their lack of wits in general, you can see how twisted their rhetoric is....:

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I love the fact they've listed 'highest unemployment rate in the UK' as an achievement - it does say something about the intellectual rigour of the creator..... ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one to spot that... had to re read in about ten time to make sure I wasn't misreading it! Is the author of this poster really theat dim/ shoddy or is it a troll to draw out the cyber nats who are pretty much immune to actually closley examining the detail of anything SNP related lest the realise they are being had over?
 
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I'm glad I'm not the only one to spot that... had to re read in about ten time to make sure I was misreading it! Is the author of this poster really theat dim/ shoddy or is it a troll to draw out the cyber nats who are pretty much immune to actually closley examining the detail of anything SNP related lest the realise they are being had over?


Cough.... ;)
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one to spot that... had to re read in about ten time to make sure I was misreading it! Is the author of this poster really theat dim/ shoddy or is it a troll to draw out the cyber nats who are pretty much immune to actually closley examining the detail of anything SNP related lest the realise they are being had over?

I love the fact they've listed 'highest unemployment rate in the UK' as an achievement - it does say something about the intellectual rigour of the creator..... ;)

They've just written it wrong... It's the highest EMPLOYMENT rate not unemployment.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...the three months to,four countries of the UK.

In the three months to December 2022, the unemployment rate in the United Kingdom was highest in England where it was 3.8 percent, followed by 3.5 percent in Wales, 3.3 percent in Scotland, and 2.5 percent in Northern Ireland, the lowest rate among the four countries of the UK. For the United Kingdom as a whole, the unemployment rate was 3.7 percent, one of the lowest rates since 1974.


It was in the news a few days ago but probably only really highlighted in news North of the border given it would reveal England being the worst performer and we can't have that....
 
Quite a few news stories about it (including BBC) but this one seems to be a bit more succint.

Over the period October to December 2022, 2,742,000 people aged 16 to 64 were in work – with this total up by 37,000 on the previous quarter and 89,000 higher than it was in the same period in 2021.

That meant the employment rate for the last three months of last year rose to 76.6%.

The total is up from the 76.1% that was recorded for September to November 2022, which had been the highest ever recorded since the labour force survey series began in 1992.

Scotland’s employment rate was the highest of the four UK nations, and was above the 75.6% recorded for the UK as a whole, data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed.

According to the figures, 93,000 Scots were unemployed over the period October to December last year – with this total 5000 lower than the previous quarter and 19,000 less than it had been at the same point in 2021.

The unemployment rate in Scotland was 3.3%, lower than the 3.7% recorded for the UK as a whole.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/23320085.scotlands-employment-rate-highest-uk-last-quarter/
 
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Quite a few news stories about it (including BBC) but this one seems to be a bit more succint.



https://www.thenational.scot/news/23320085.scotlands-employment-rate-highest-uk-last-quarter/
Seriously who cares? It's so desperate. There are regions of England with far more people that have lower unemployment. Besides the the UK has very low levels of unemployment anyway.

Scots Nats seem to wish to compare their country to the UK, England or regions when they feel like it proves their current point and are blissfully unaware of how cringe their arguments are.

The fact is that Scotland takes far more money from the UK's block grant per person than they contribute and it's the English taxpayer that pays for it whilst being blamed for every Scottish misfortune.


On revenues, Scotland raised £221 less per head than the UK, whilst on expenditure, Scotland spent £1,963 more per head than the UK average.

And I do mean the English taxpayer as Wales and NI cost far more per head also.
 
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Havn't you idiots been watching the last 5 years? As bad as Sturgeon was we have seen it can always get worse....much worse.

*Also the Scottish contribution to UK finances has been under declared for decades not even including oil and gas, there's plenty of Scottish produce that appears to vanish into thin air then re-appear on government finance books as other sources.
 
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Seriously who cares? It's so desperate. There are regions of England with far more people that have lower unemployment. Besides the the UK has very low levels of unemployment anyway.

Scots Nats seem to wish to compare their country to the UK, England or regions when they feel like it proves their current point and are blissfully unaware of how cringe their arguments are.

The fact is that Scotland takes far more money from the UK's block grant per person than they contribute and it's the English taxpayer that pays for it whilst being blamed for every Scottish misfortune.




And I do mean the English taxpayer as Wales and NI cost far more per head also.
Exactly - the south west has higher employment rate than Scotland with equivalent population.

The pro Sturgeon stuff in this thread has been really really desperate.
 
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