Poll: *** Google Nexus 6 ***

[Thomss]

If the camera samples from this look good I'll go for it rather than the Note 4.
Front facing stereo speakers would be a nice change from my current Nexus devices and previous Note 3.

 

[miniyazz]

That sort of biased site is perfect for looking at it without rose-tinted spectacles. You know they'll pick up all possible bad points for you, just ignore their conclusions.

 

[miniyazz]

Fair enough, but my first impression from actually reading the link, and ignoring the iOS claim, is that they conclude the Nexus 6 is actually the better phone! They do a through job of comparing actual features---hardware and software---and they pick up the point I made about the extra battery feature charge.

Horses for courses.

They don't conclude that at all. They finish by suggesting that the only possible reason you would want the Nexus 6 over the iPhone 6+ is if you've never used iOS/don't use a Mac, or (god forbid) don't like iOS8.

They also gloss over many bits where the Nexus is better than the IP+ and ignore crucial details - for example commenting that the half inch bigger screen makes the Nexus harder to hold - and not mentioning at all the minor detail that the phones appear (from the earlier photo comparision) to be the same size with the Nexus just having far slimmer bezels (fitting a larger screen into the same phone size).

Then there's the outrageous propaganda-like statements such as:

The camera found on the rear of the Google Nexus 6 is 13Mp compared with the iPhone 6 Plus's 8Mp, though it doesn't have the bigger pixels that help improve the camera in the iPhone 6 Plus. The Nexus 6's lens has an aperture of f/2.0, while the iPhone 6 Plus boasts an aperture of f/2.2.

Unless you know anything about lenses you will automatically assume that f/2.2 is better than f/2.0. They've even written it to imply that f/2.2 is better.

It's a hugely biased site, and certainly doesn't provide anything approaching a thorough review of hardware/software features but can be useful to identify possible bad points that other places might not have picked up on.

 

[I_am_not_Carabia83]

I stopped reading that article from the point it said

We've not yet had a chance to try out the Nexus 6 for ourselves yet

 

[mark2410]

So long as I can take it out of my pocket when its raining and not have to worry then I'm happy. Dropping it into a river "because i can" doesnt really appeal

surely water resistant is nice to have than not to have?

it would have saved my sisters sensastion xe that went for a swim

 

[mrochester]

I ignore anything Macworld says. They compared an iPhone and I think a Note 3 and the reason they recommended the iPhone was because it runs iOS. After that, I ignore their reviews.

That sounds like a pretty good reason to recommend the iPhone to me!

If it's ok to recommend one phone over another because one has a better camera than the other, why is it not ok to recommend one phone over another when one has a better OS? I don't understand this mentality that operating systems have to be regarded as 'equal' and the only grounds for comparison can be the hardware.

In regards to the Nexus 6, lovely hardware, far too big. Let down only because it runs Android. If it has Windows Phone or iOS it would be significantly better.

 

[mark43]

I guess one reason is because which os is better is more subjective, as I'm sure will be evident when many people disagree with you, and others agree.

 

[I_am_not_Carabia83]

If it's ok to recommend one phone over another because one has a better camera than the other, why is it not ok to recommend one phone over another when one has a better OS?

That's subjective though. iOS is not factually a better operating system.

It depends what you want out of it. For me iOS is far too restrictive and doesn't provide features that meet my needs.

The one area where iOS was better than android for me was with regards to smoothness and general stability. However that has progressively gotten worse, iOS 8 is far from perfect in that regard.

The only plus point for me at this stage is the App Store, most apps are more polished than android versions and there's still a trend of certain apps coming to App Store first or in some cases being exclusive to App Store.

But that is not enough of a reason for me to move back to Apple permanently as I'd be missing out on features that I rely on that android provides.

 

[jubei]

That sounds like a pretty good reason to recommend the iPhone to me!

If it's ok to recommend one phone over another because one has a better camera than the other, why is it not ok to recommend one phone over another when one has a better OS? I don't understand this mentality that operating systems have to be regarded as 'equal' and the only grounds for comparison can be the hardware.

In regards to the Nexus 6, lovely hardware, far too big. Let down only because it runs Android. If it has Windows Phone or iOS it would be significantly better.

Now on my Lumia I have used all of the operating systems and other android so I guess not eh. Ios is too boring for me, and iTunes is awful. This windows phone is lovely to navigate but let down harshly by available apps. Android is so customisable you can do pretty much anything with it even little things like watching flash videos on a browser which to me just make it superior.

I used to think ios was still popular due to less tech savvy people wanting something that ' just works' but you can do that by not customising your android :/ I am looking forward to my move back to android that's for sure, but am happy that I tried windows phone for myself.

 

[mrochester]

That's subjective though. iOS is not factually a better operating system.

It depends what you want out of it. For me iOS is far too restrictive and doesn't provide features that meet my needs.

The one area where iOS was better than android for me was with regards to smoothness and general stability. However that has progressively gotten worse, iOS 8 is far from perfect in that regard.

The only plus point for me at this stage is the App Store, most apps are more polished than android versions and there's still a trend of certain apps coming to App Store first or in some cases being exclusive to App Store.

But that is not enough of a reason for me to move back to Apple permanently as I'd be missing out on features that I rely on that android provides.

The results from cameras is also subjective, as is the effect of the amount of RAM a device has, yet people still compare devices in this way. You cannot objectively compare devices that are objectively different. At which point, you may as well include whether the OS is any good into the recommendation.

 

[mrochester]

Now on my Lumia I have used all of the operating systems and other android so I guess not eh. Ios is too boring for me, and iTunes is awful. This windows phone is lovely to navigate but let down harshly by available apps. Android is so customisable you can do pretty much anything with it even little things like watching flash videos on a browser which to me just make it superior.

I used to think ios was still popular due to less tech savvy people wanting something that ' just works' but you can do that by not customising your android :/ I am looking forward to my move back to android that's for sure, but am happy that I tried windows phone for myself.

To be honest I've never treated any smartphone ive owned as a toy that needs to keep me entertained or that I could get bored with. To me it's a communication and mobile internet device that can take pictures and play music and podcasts. Being the same all the time is a big plus.

 

[I_am_not_Carabia83]

The results from cameras is also subjective, as is the effect of the amount of RAM a device has, yet people still compare devices in this way. You cannot objectively compare devices that are objectively different. At which point, you may as well include whether the OS is any good into the recommendation.

I agree with what you're saying with regards to comparisons that are made on "specs". When they don't tell the full story.

For example comparing the note 3 to the iPhone 5s on paper you could say the note 3 was "better" as it had a faster cpu, more ram, better camera etc

However real world usage gave a different result, the 5s was a much smoother experience, browsing webpages was much smoother, barely any stuttering, lag, the camera took better pictures etc and I'd say it was a pretty safe bet that an iPhone 5s would definitely pee over an equivalent android handset with a dual core cpu and 1gb ram.

The main difference with Apple and android is that generally apples operating system is optimised for the hardware, as opposed to androids brute force of more specs, less optimisation. But it's easier for Apple to optimise the operating system as there are limited hardware configurations, as opposed to android that has to scale to so many different types of hardware.

My point was more with regards to some people outright saying iOS is a better operating system, that's subjective. What's better for one person isn't for someone else. But there seems to be this generalisation among some people that simply state that iOS is the best operating system, when that's not the case at all. Yes there are things iOS does better than android, the same way android does some things better.

 

[mrochester]

I agree with what you're saying with regards to comparisons that are made on "specs". When they don't tell the full story.

For example comparing the note 3 to the iPhone 5s on paper you could say the note 3 was "better" as it had a faster cup, more ram, better camera etc

However real world usage gave a different result, the 5s was a much smoother experience, browsing webpages was much smoother, barely any stuttering, lag, the camera took better pictures etc

The main difference with Apple and android is that generally apples operating system is optimised for the hardware, as opposed to androids brute force of more specs, less optimisation.

My point was more with regards to some people outright saying iOS is a better operating system, that's subjective. What's better for one person isn't for someone else.

Which is precisely why the operating system is the most important way to compare devices given the hardware is just a means to an end.

The problem with being disallowed from saying one operating system is better than another basically means that no one device can ever be recommended over another, as they all have to be given equal footing in the software department. Its political correctness gone mad.

 

[I_am_not_Carabia83]

Which is precisely why the operating system is the most important way to compare devices given the hardware is just a means to an end.

I'd say comparisons need to take everything into account. But for some people it doesn't matter as they don't look beyond the apple or android label.

There are people that own Apple devices that will dismiss any device simply because it doesn't have a fruit on it and doesn't run iOS.

Android has a lot of positives, some of which Apple have taken. And most people who say android is laggy, stutters etc have no direct experience with android devices short of maybe playing with one for a few minutes in a phone shop.

The problem with being disallowed from saying one operating system is better than another basically means that no one device can ever be recommended over another, as they all have to be given equal footing in the software department. Its political correctness gone mad.

I don't think there's anything wrong with saying one operating system is better than another. But most people simply state it as fact, I.e iOS is better than android. But in what way? iOS is not better for someone that needs the extra freedom that android provides. iOS can be better for people too, it's definitely more user friendly than android and that suits some people more.

I personally don't think there's a black and white better operating system, you'd need to compare certain aspects. But at this stage most people have already decided on their operating system, if someone favours Apple they just simply decide the colour and storage size (now size of device too) and if someone favours android they just compare hardware specs.

For many comparisons between Apple and android aren't even needed.

 

[mrochester]

I'd say comparisons need to take everything into account. But for some people it doesn't matter as they don't look beyond the apple or android label.

There are people that own Apple devices that will dismiss any device simply because it doesn't have a fruit on it and doesn't run iOS.

Android has a lot of positives, some of which Apple have taken. And most people who say android is laggy, stutters etc have no direct experience with android devices short of maybe playing with one for a few minutes in a phone shop.

I know a few people like that at work who just will not even entertain the idea of owning an Apple device despite the fact they've never tried one. I pity their ignorance and short sightedness.

I don't think there's anything wrong with saying one operating system is better than another. But most people simply state it as fact, I.e iOS is better than android. But in what way? iOS is not better for someone that needs the extra freedom that android provides. iOS can be better for people too, it's definitely more user friendly than android and that suits some people more.

You can't state a preference as fact. Saying iOS is better than Android is still an opinion, no matter how you write it. The problem is the ill-defined types of people you are referring to.

 

[I_am_not_Carabia83]

You can't state a preference as fact. Saying iOS is better than Android is still an opinion, no matter how you write it. The problem is the ill-defined types of people you are referring to.

I think you can

If someone says "ios is better than android" that to me is someone stating it factually. And I'd personally think they were an apple fanboy

If someone says "I prefer iOS to android" I'd interpret that differently

 

[e36Adz]

If I hadn't got a good deal on the Note 4, this would have been my next phone without question. Love the huge screen and the lack of bezel - can't believe it's shorter than the smaller screened iP6+

Spoiler

 

[mrochester]

I think you can

If someone says "ios is better than android" that to me is someone stating it factually. And I'd personally think they were an apple fanboy

If someone says "I prefer iOS to android" I'd interpret that differently

I know they are both opinions, so I don't need the poster to explicitly tell me that. I can see from what they are writing that it's an opinion.

 

[geuben]

If I hadn't got a good deal on the Note 4, this would have been my next phone without question. Love the huge screen and the lack of bezel - can't believe it's shorter than the smaller screened iP6+

Spoiler

This comparison is just wrong. the Nexus 6 is taller by ~1.1mm than the iPhone 6 plus.

 

[mrochester]

If I hadn't got a good deal on the Note 4, this would have been my next phone without question. Love the huge screen and the lack of bezel - can't believe it's shorter than the smaller screened iP6+

Spoiler

According to GSMArena its taller, wider and considerably thicker than the iPhone 6 plus.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6665&idPhone2=6604