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But it does have a significantly larger screen and much better bezels. The bezels on the 6+ are outrageous.
That's true. I mean they look almost identical in height from all the pics I've seen. The iP6+ bezels are a joke tbh.
It does, but the iP6+ does have a bumper on.
This is a good bit wider than the 6+ isn't it? The height isn't really the problem with these phones, it's the width.
I can handle my 6+ okay, but it's not an effortless task, if it was any wider then it'd be even more difficult.
The bezels are a bit big but TouchID is amazing so I'll happily accept it.
I'd be struggling to pick between this and a Note 4 if I wanted an Android phone, the Note will probably shade it if you can live with TouchWiz.
I can handle my 6+ okay, but it's not an effortless task, if it was any wider then it'd be even more difficult.
The bezels are a bit big but TouchID is amazing so I'll happily accept it.
I'd be struggling to pick between this and a Note 4 if I wanted an Android phone, the Note will probably shade it if you can live with TouchWiz.
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The width was the biggest issue with the 6 plus I had, and was the primary reason I sent it back and kept the 6 instead. Thickness is also important as increased thickness means your fingers can't wrap around the width as well.
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It is bizarre that the Google Play Store still lists the Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10, with pride of place, like they are still brand new products. There aren't even placeholders for the new products.
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I think thats the problem, its more "user friendly". Blanket statements like these without any reason behind it cause problems. Its not going to be easier at everything, there are a lot of things I find are much harder on iOS, but there are things harder on Android. These augments are never balanced or well reasoned and just reach arbitrary conclusions.
Each platform has clear strengths and weakness, and with ever OS update these 2 draw closer and close, iOS8 brings sharing, app communication, third party keyboards, Android 5.0 brings better UI, everything is much more consistent, faster. Soon the difference will be tiny.
Also a lot of the times iOS/Android is better cause the reviewer likes it more, I can't say Football team X is better purely cause I like it. And on the rare time they try to discuss things it is typically heavily skewed and covers flaws, or just rights them off as not being an issue.
Again this is wrong, I love both Android and iOS, I find it difficult with each gen to make a choice, I do normally end up with Android on phones as I can still get a better experience, but the gap gets smaller and smaller. And I think for most normal people this sort of holds true, there fine with either.
Saw a Note 4 at lunch. That screen does look nice. I used to look at the Note and think it was far too big. I guess at the time I did have a 3.5" iPhone! Having had the 5" Nexus for the past year the Note no longer looks that big. Starting to think the 6" Nexus might not be as monstrous as I first thought.
Apple Mac site suggests getting the Apple iPhone over competitor, who would have thought it?
Apple Mac site suggests getting the Apple iPhone over competitor, who would have thought it?
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It's my opinion so it can't be wrong
My point was more aimed at those who have a fondness/attraction to any device with an apple on it.
Aside from fanboys on the internet, there are an alarming amount of people that will literally buy anything with an apple logo, and not look twice at anything without one.
I've tried lots of times to get my girlfriend to look at other phones but she only wants apple, I try and ask why but her response is she just like it.
Apple products are "cool", people want to fit in socially, and superficially having an apple device is "cool"
Do you honestly think the typical apple customer "finds it difficult with each gen" to make a choice about whether to go for android or the latest apple handset?
I'd say the thought process is simply what colour should I go for lol. If I was to generalise I'd say that people that do weigh up the pros and cons and research endlessly over the benefits of android and ios are a minority. I bet if you asked 10 random people on the street what they thought of ios vs android L they'd have no clue what you were talking about.
Hell I'd bet money that if you asked 10 people on the street that had iphones what ios was they'd have no clue lol
People on forums are a minority, the average joes buying decision process is very different.
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Yeah, off course this is my circle of friends and family but they hop between iPhones and Galaxy devices, I think they find both them pretty cool and just get whatever they think is cooler at the time. My point is that the loyalty is to the brand and not really iOS or Android.
While I like the hardware specs, (though the resolution isn't necessary and will increase battery usage) it's just too big to be easily used one handed.
I think Motorolla pretty much nailed the nicest shaped and best sized android phone in my opinion with the first Moto X (for one handed use).
Really not sure what google is up to with their sizing tbh. I love my Nexus 7 for it's size yet it appears google are replacing it with a 9 inch tablet. That takes away hugely from benefits the smaller form factor of the Nexus 7 had compared to it's competitors. (I had expected them to probaby increase the size to 8 inch).
Anyhow, looks like it may have to be a 2nd gen Moto X for me when it comes to phone change time. Would love for OnePlus to release a slightly smaller phone. (5-5.2inch would be perfect)
I think Motorolla pretty much nailed the nicest shaped and best sized android phone in my opinion with the first Moto X (for one handed use).
Really not sure what google is up to with their sizing tbh. I love my Nexus 7 for it's size yet it appears google are replacing it with a 9 inch tablet. That takes away hugely from benefits the smaller form factor of the Nexus 7 had compared to it's competitors. (I had expected them to probaby increase the size to 8 inch).
Anyhow, looks like it may have to be a 2nd gen Moto X for me when it comes to phone change time. Would love for OnePlus to release a slightly smaller phone. (5-5.2inch would be perfect)
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A lot of people mention using phones one handed.
It must just be me but I've always used two hands, even in the days when I had blackberrys and they were small comapred to what nowadays would be classed as small, but I'd use two hands to text.
It was even the same when I had phones like the Nokia 8210, I'd use it two handed to text etc, and one handed when I actually held the phone on a call.
For me using a phone one handed feels weird, I can't imagine trying to hold a phone and say try typing something in google etc with one hand. Even with an iphone 4s it would be two hands, like say I'm zooming in on a web page I'd use my two thumbs as opposed to thumb and index finger on one hand.
Infact I just tried zooming in with one hand and it feels unnatural, even though the pinching gesture is marketed as index finger and thumb....
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It depends what I'm doing but when I'm just checking emails, messages, websites it's all one handed. Even typing can be easily done one handed with swype. I do use my phone with 2 hands often as well, but just not as much as I do one handed.
Regarding zooming, double tapping on a section usually does all the zooming I need.
They always do this just leaving the items out of stock. Keeps their fan base on tenterhooks.
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It's just me, friends and family take the same approach as you, I just find using one hand unnatural for me personally.
Regardless of what I'm doing I tend to hold the phone in one hand and use the other to navigate, and if I need to zoom I kinda hold it in two hands and use thumbs lol. If I swipe I again use one hand to hold the phone and the index finger on my other hand to swype.
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Maybe it's just me but with Google voice search and voice activation being plugged by Google in radio and tv ads every which way lately ("OK Google, ........"), I find the fixation with one hand vs two hands to be odd. Perhaps on one out of every 20 messages I might be inclined to type with a keyboard.
Two years ago I found that Google Voice figured out about 15-20 out of every 25 words I would dictate to Google. Today it is rare that they miss any of my words!
Guys, don't you find Google Voice to be useful to you too? Is my reliance on Google Voice solely related to the fact that I am also a Glass wearer (I love Glass!) and everything starts with the verbal command, "OK Glass.....make a call to....take a picture....record a video.....recognise this.....etc"? But even if I did not own Google Glass, I would be so likely to use voice commands and dictation most of the time I am sure.
Some have said to me.....but I do not want people around me to hear what I am saying in a text or Hangout or WhatsApp, etc. But I find everywhere that smartphone users are speaking loudly into their phones with their head bent over like they are suffering some kind of seizure!
Two years ago I found that Google Voice figured out about 15-20 out of every 25 words I would dictate to Google. Today it is rare that they miss any of my words!
Guys, don't you find Google Voice to be useful to you too? Is my reliance on Google Voice solely related to the fact that I am also a Glass wearer (I love Glass!) and everything starts with the verbal command, "OK Glass.....make a call to....take a picture....record a video.....recognise this.....etc"? But even if I did not own Google Glass, I would be so likely to use voice commands and dictation most of the time I am sure.
Some have said to me.....but I do not want people around me to hear what I am saying in a text or Hangout or WhatsApp, etc. But I find everywhere that smartphone users are speaking loudly into their phones with their head bent over like they are suffering some kind of seizure!
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You say: "The main difference with Apple and android is that generally apples operating system is optimised for the hardware, as opposed to androids brute force of more specs, less optimisation. But it's easier for Apple to optimise the operating system as there are limited hardware configurations, as opposed to android that has to scale to so many different types of hardware."
And that is precisely why Android 5.0 Lollipop is so important to combat the fragmentation issue you refer to. 5.0 will be optimised for both the top of the line Nexus 6 with high specs as well as the Android One being sold in India now and soon Indonesia and the Phillipines at sub $ 100 SIM free price tags, also with 5.0. And Google is making much out of the 5,000 new APIs launched for devs with 5.0.
You say: "The main difference with Apple and android is that generally apples operating system is optimised for the hardware, as opposed to androids brute force of more specs, less optimisation. But it's easier for Apple to optimise the operating system as there are limited hardware configurations, as opposed to android that has to scale to so many different types of hardware."
And that is precisely why Android 5.0 Lollipop is so important to combat the fragmentation issue you refer to. 5.0 will be optimised for both the top of the line Nexus 6 with high specs as well as the Android One being sold in India now and soon Indonesia and the Phillipines at sub $ 100 SIM free price tags, also with 5.0. And Google is making much out of the 5,000 new APIs launched for devs with 5.0.