Google Pixel 7/7 Pro & Pixel Watch

The problem is that Android, for many years, has used gestures for opening menus and other interactions within apps.
I'm not sure I understand this. I don't think I've ever seen an app that uses one of the Android gestures to access menu's? Am I being dim? Android gestures are all about controlling the app surely, not what goes on in the app? I guess some might build a gesture in themselves, but that's not down to Android?
 
I'm not sure I understand this. I don't think I've ever seen an app that uses one of the Android gestures to access menu's? Am I being dim? Android gestures are all about controlling the app surely, not what goes on in the app? I guess some might build a gesture in themselves, but that's not down to Android?

What I mean by this is swiping in from the left to open a menu, for example.

As I’ve been an Android user for so long, and because some apps still use the hamburger menu, it’s engrained in me to swipe in to open it.

If an app has left in the menu, the way of accessing it now is by reaching the top left corner of the screen. With how big phones have gotten, this is pretty challenging.


We need some better design standards for android which devs have to follow. It’s great having customisation, but the lack of consistency in some core features/actions plagues the experience.
 
As I’ve been an Android user for so long, and because some apps still use the hamburger menu, it’s engrained in me to swipe in to open it.
Swiping in has never been an action to open the hamburger menu? It's back. If the menu was the last place you were in, it would go back to it, of course...

**EDIT** Okay, hmm, I maybe remember a LONG time ago, for a brief while it was, but it's been 'back' for so long now, and wasn't used for that for very long, I don't even really remember that being the case.

@LiE I see what you mean. I can make it happen in Gmail by just not swiping from the very edge. They should just remove that really.

**EDIT2** Again, I'm not sure that's not just an apps use of a gesture rather than Android's implementation of it?
 
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Swiping in has never been an action to open the hamburger menu? It's back. If the menu was the last place you were in, it would go back to it, of course...
Swiping goes back?

It is back now, but for a long time, since they introduced material design with Android 5.0, it was a gesture to open the hamburger menu in whichever app had one. It might have even been before that, but I remember it being a big part of the interaction with lollipop.


Because of this, it’s still very much engrained in me to swipe from the left, and as @LiE pointed out, even Google haven’t gotten rid of that gesture yet.

This is the core of the problem for me with Google. And it isn’t just with their consumer stuff either - I have similar conversations with people about their enterprise products too.


Google for me = half baked everything. They seemingly never strive for perfection.
 
Yeah, I do now know what you mean, thanks. I was having a look to see what I could find, and I came across this in 2019 -
Google has already explained that the back action is a core part of Android and is used even more often than the home action, so assigning an intuitive and reliable gesture was crucial for this system. Many longtime Android users disagree, but Google says the vast majority of Android users didn’t even know a swipe could open up side menus as most would simply tap a button within the app.
I would fall into that camp of not even really knowing/using the menu gesture, which I think from analytics Google is saying most people didn't us it. Everyone goes back. But they should have removed one when they brought the other.
 
Do we have Pixel 8 thread yet?


The biggest detail here is a new primary camera sensor for both phones, the Samsung ISOCELL GN2. This 50MP sensor is the direct successor to the GN1 that Pixel 6 and 7 use, and also the same sensor used in Samsung’s Galaxy S22 and S23
 
Do we have Pixel 8 thread yet?


The biggest detail here is a new primary camera sensor for both phones, the Samsung ISOCELL GN2. This 50MP sensor is the direct successor to the GN1 that Pixel 6 and 7 use, and also the same sensor used in Samsung’s Galaxy S22 and S23

Nice upgrade on the UW. Hope it does have macro mode too.



 
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Just got the June update on my 7Pro, but I don't have any of the new features. No Cinematic wallpaper, no emoji wallpaper and no macro video.

Great update lol
 
Just got the June update on my 7Pro, but I don't have any of the new features. No Cinematic wallpaper, no emoji wallpaper and no macro video.

Great update lol
Same here which is quite amusing as I had the "New Pixel features" screen popup after the reboot just to tell me about all this things that I've not got yet :cry:
Assuming they'll be activated by individual app updates over the coming days.
 
Same here which is quite amusing as I had the "New Pixel features" screen popup after the reboot just to tell me about all this things that I've not got yet :cry:
Assuming they'll be activated by individual app updates over the coming days.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking lol
 
I didn't realise i toggled Raw + jpeg in the camera settings since March! That explains why my camera hasn't felt as snappy as it should. Deleted 5GB of RAW images!
 
Phone signal and battery life seems to have taken a hit with the last update… anyone else or is it likely a “me” issue?
 
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Phone signal and battery life seems to have taken a hit with the last update… anyone else or is it likely a “me” issue?
I've seen a number of articles pop up about the latest update tanking battery.


 
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I've seen a number of articles pop up about the latest update tanking battery.


Ah ok thanks fingers crossed something will be updated soon then!
 
Anyone having troubles with the finger print scanner, for some reason it has stop working with my right thumb, works with any other finger, and have retried scanning my right thumb a few times, it just doesn't like it
 
Pixel 7 Pro is going back, but only because I think the 8 will suit me better.

I'm definitely stuck in the walled garden with Apple - I use a MacBook for work, an iPad, Apple Watch and iPhone. So the integration between these is useful and most of the time seamless.


That being said, there are still quite a few things which do annoy me with iOS, and this has been made evident with using the 7 Pro.


Here's what I'll miss the most:

  • I really like the quick access wallet from lock screen
  • Fingerprint sensor has worked flawlessly for me - FaceID is great but it really struggles in direct sun.
  • Cameras - the latest 13 and 14 apply a LOT of over-sharpening and for the first time in a while, I've really not been a fan of the processing. Camera on Pixel is top level and immediately better than my 14 Pro Max.
  • Gboard because I ducking hate the iOS keyboard.
  • Haptic motor is top quality
  • No notch - dynamic island is more annoying than useful
  • Rotate screen button in the bottom corner - I have my screen rotation locked all the time


What I won't miss:

  • It's as if developers forget Android exists - missing features/outdated UIs
  • Battery life isn't as good as my iPhone on a good day (for the Pixel) - on a normal day, it's pants.
  • Doesn't feel premium enough
  • Curved screen - forgot how much these annoy me
  • Lack of Google-approved/managed insurance. Being able to deal direct with Apple with Applecare+ is great - I've had poor experiences using 3rd party insurers.
  • Speakers - they're VERY imbalanced on the Pixel. You can change the balance, but this only works in one orientation
  • Location access all the time - apps seemingly always requesting my location/data
  • Background process retention - apps frequently closed in the background, needing a relaunch of the app



The Pixel is VERY Google. What I mean by that is it feels like an almost good product - this is a common trait for their consumer and enterprise products. They need to push for the extra few %.

Google are trying to be the Apple of Android - Samsung offer features, and Google try and bring a premium software experience. The problem is, it isn't premium enough. There have been too many little niggles which would get on my nerves, though Apple haven't been great either with the past few iterations of iOS.


 
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