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Yes it is. Link to your 'other reports'?
Got My LG 55" OLED B6V yesterday and installed OHHH WOW
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Yes it is. Link to your 'other reports'?
Caporegime
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C6 if you don't mind the curve?
The B6 and E6 screens are effectively the same other than the thickness.
E6 has premium sound as well.
The B6 and E6 screens are effectively the same other than the thickness.
E6 has premium sound as well.
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Sceptical about OLED and HDR content. The brightness just isn't there.
I believe the B6 was the only TV that dint get a new SOC in the OLED 2016 Lineup
I don't mind the curve, think I'll have to start my own spec me Tv thread is it's getting confusing and I want to get the best I can at the size I want.
Have you actually tried it?
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No but I've read the reviews and they all say that the brightness is an issue and clips the highlights of scenes. Not sure how OLED gets a pass here. It's 500 nits of brightness too low!
I personally feel the Samsung KS9000 would be a cheaper and better option.
wow I'm literally between samsung ks9000 or oled...............Seriously blinding bright hdr highlights is what I'm after. Is samsung really better for this? Also is gaming more latency on an oled than on a ks9000?
Why is it that everyone wants their tv to sting their retinas with ridiculously high brightness these days? People are falling for nonsense marketing, that is why.
Firstly the 2016 OLEDs can produce over 600 nits which is more than bright enough. If you actually watch TV at 600 nits then you are a maniac, it hurts. Secondly HDR =/= brightness. It is a range. LCD panels can't match the range of an OLED because they cannot achieve true black so they have to extend the range at the other end of the spectrum, brightness. This makes for uncomfortable viewing and still doesn't match the infinite contrast you can get with an OLED.
I wonder why cinemas don't use 1 million nit displays? Such nonsense.
Why oh why? That's just not what HDR is. Sigh.
No he hasn't. Clearly hasn't got a clue.
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Oh I do have a clue. I film with a camera that has 15 stops of dynamic range. I'm also a colourist and use Davinci Resolve for colour correcting my work.
I can tell you the bright areas are just as important as the dark areas. It's the contrast between the two and with the KS9000 you may not get as deep blacks but you have a higher overall contrast between the darkest black and highlights. Hence the term HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE.
No it's not about that, but it's not about just the dark areas either. It's about the contrast between those dark areas and those highlights. It's not also about blinding light. People don't want blinding light for HDR and that's not what I want. What I want is a larger difference between those bright areas and those dark areas. I also don't want the highlights clipped like they are on the LG OLED's. I want the detail in both the dark areas and the light areas. Again LG just doesn't have the detail there.
You do get negatives with both LED LCD and OLED. With OLED you get clipped highlights, but deeper blacks (although the difference is minimal with black detail loss compared to the highlight clipping detail loss) and with LCD LED with any material that has blanking (black bars) top and bottom you get ghosting and flare because the screen is too bright at the higher end of the spectrum. You could crop this with the A/R settings of your TV, but who would want to do that?
SDR is much MUCH better with OLED, but HDR on LED LCD is just much better. The difference between SDR and HDR on an LG is quite minimal (you could argue because SDR looks so good on OLED) compared to the difference between SDR and HDR on a LED LCD, which is massive. Again another advantage over LED LCD for OLED is that LG have the only TV's in Europe that support Dolby Vision aswell as HDR10. Although I don't know of many people using the former!
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Then you'd be losing a lot of detail, but if you would prefer a TV that isn't 100% HDR and like SDR material then go for it! I know why you would take OLED and it's your personal opinion, but for me I wouldn't be able to take the loss of detail in the highlights
It's a shame as everything else about OLED tech is so good.
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You're talking about clipping highlight details, but I'm pretty sure that can be calibrated out with the OLED.
Rather strange to say the least to compare the cinema to OLED / LCD in the first place
Despite that, this isnt even remotely true of the current tests anyway, its peak brightness in a very small area of screen (not the whole screen as you seem to suggest) which is a reasonable way of testing whether a device is capable of premium HDR and therefore allows the director to fathom what bright / shadow details will be descernable to those paying / viewing
According to AVF currently this is not possible
Obviously with some tv's a calibration is required as out of the box settings arent great - and on other sets its not required at all as some are actually delivered as virtually perfect - but there does appear to be a fault with some versions of HDR 10 I believe where the hardware is clipping it severely and no amount of calibration will make any difference.
Whether bios /firmware updates will make a difference is so far unclear but seems unlikely
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Always love that sort of a response to a "You don't know what you are talking about" statements
