Gran Turismo 7

spaceman said:
The aim is to be able to turn TCS off for all cars. (Using TCS 1 currently)
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I still struggle with grasping the concept of doing this.

Real race cars have traction control programs and the drivers do not turn them off. Why? Because they are faster with them on. Play an actual sim title (iRacing for example) and you'll find you need to use it to be fast.
almoststew1990 said:
the physics are not great, the menus are all a bloated mess of long flashy animations and pressing X to skip stuff, the racing isn't great
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Some points from me.
  • The animations are there to hide the load times.
  • Physics are quite shocking. The oversteer on FR and MR cars is shocking and as far from IRL handling as you can get.
  • I wouldn't class it as racing tbh. They way each "race" is setup where you have to chase down a leader with up to 60 seconds of a lead is pretty guff. At the very least allow for a rolling start with cars lined up in 2s.
The game being way too short is my biggest gripe. 39 menus done, all the missions (With the exception of the glitched drift ones) done. Nearly all circuit experiences (With the exception of the glitched rally ones) done. GT games of old used to take months to finish. 2 weeks and this'll be done.
 
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Just did the Camaro Cafe Menu on U.S. circuits and the DeLorean S2 was in the lead and yep the A.I. driver was named E. Brown :rolleyes::cry::D nice touch...

I forgot how twitchy these US FR cars are round long corners - spun around like a washing machine and smashed the Corvette into the wall...pumping the accelerator helps...think I added a LSD which I thought might improve things.
 
N0ddie said:
Some points from me.
  • The animations are there to hide the load times.
  • Physics are quite shocking. The oversteer on FR and MR cars is shocking and as far from IRL handling as you can get.
  • I wouldn't class it as racing tbh. They way each "race" is setup where you have to chase down a leader with up to 60 seconds of a lead is pretty guff. At the very least allow for a rolling start with cars lined up in 2s.
The game being way too short is my biggest gripe. 39 menus done, all the missions (With the exception of the glitched drift ones) done. Nearly all circuit experiences (With the exception of the glitched rally ones) done. GT games of old used to take months to finish. 2 weeks and this'll be done.
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In terms of excess animations and stuff I mean the amount of button pressing you have to do to do anything. Win a race: X to continue to results. X to continue an interim reward screen. X to second reward/miles/credits screen. X to activate credits X to activate miles. X to start replay X to bring up replay bar. X to select exit. Brings up a second results screen, pan over to Exit, X. I mean come on just hurry up, and give us a Next Race button too. The game has no consideration for my time.

I agree the racing is not 'racing racing' but that's just arguing semantics. It's a racing game, you enter races to win money and cars as the core gameplay loop, but as you say, the actual racing kind of crap.

And yet I'm enjoying it still :p
 
N0ddie said:
I still struggle with grasping the concept of doing this.

Real race cars have traction control programs and the drivers do not turn them off. Why? Because they are faster with them on. Play an actual sim title (iRacing for example) and you'll find you need to use it to be fast.
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In these arcade games the car is usually faster out of slow corners without the 1 second delay getting full power with Traction Control enabled.
 
N0ddie said:
I still struggle with grasping the concept of doing this.

Real race cars have traction control programs and the drivers do not turn them off. Why? Because they are faster with them on. Play an actual sim title (iRacing for example) and you'll find you need to use it to be fast.
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I haven’t played iRacing in years but assuming it’s something like ACC’s. Then yes, it is much faster with TC but then the implementation of it is far better. GT Sport and GT7, even on TC setting 1, cut the throttle so drastically that it makes you considerably slower out of slow corners. It also engages through kinks and over kerbs which without TC you can easily take full throttle.

I do think handling wise they’ve massively overshot reality. GT Sport understeered far too much so seems they’ve added oversteer but far too much.
 
N0ddie said:
The game being way too short is my biggest gripe. 39 menus done, all the missions (With the exception of the glitched drift ones) done. Nearly all circuit experiences (With the exception of the glitched rally ones) done. GT games of old used to take months to finish. 2 weeks and this'll be done.
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Do you have no interest collecting all the cars and playing online? That’s where the longevity of the game will be for me.
 
Changed my rally car to the Hyundai Genesis rally car, finding it a lot easier to farm credits now. Handles better than the ford personally.

edit - I’m rubbish at rallying, but 97k credits every 3 minutes 13 seconds is not too bad !
 
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You guys probably already know this if you're doing the missions, but i noticed today the wind direction isn't always the same in the slip stream missions.

If you haven't got a slight tail wind, you probably wont get gold. The wind direction changed after i backed out of the mission then went back into it.
 
All licenses done, IA on wards became more bronze, I'll accept that personally, especially in the super licenses, whilst I got the odd silver I'll never have the skill for a gold in S7 and S10
 
Mark1989 said:
All licenses done, IA on wards became more bronze, I'll accept that personally, especially in the super licenses, whilst I got the odd silver I'll never have the skill for a gold in S7 and S10
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I just about scraped gold in all licenses but super. Tried the first track, that’s a nope from me. :P
 
I think people are looking at the Cafe Menu's all wrong. They are not just "do this to get a car"

They're an introduction into the next set of races. It's guiding you through the "campaign" Yes it can be a bit hand holdy at times. You're not going to jump in your Demio and take on the Super GT cup are you? You've never been able to do that. Every GT has introduced you to the Sunday Cup, then the Clubman cup before even letting you near the big races.

Stop looking at the Cafe Menu's as something you need to Check off your to do list.
 
Mark1989 said:
I quite like the cafe menu tbh
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I do too, i'm only about half way through them at the moment. I did the license tests when that opened up and am working through the missions as they become available (when they correct the tyres i get gold on the remaining ones).

I think some of the missions are harder than the licenses to get gold on and i haven't got access to the last two yet (collector level 17 & 19 needed i think).
 
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