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this PS3 or 360 version ?

I'm still undecided !

Draw distance is appalling. Yes theres isn't too much pop up of stuff close, but everything being "out of focus" is a cheap trick to use low res low power stuff. The distance at which buildings are completely out of focus is normally laughable. THe problem with "focus" in games being billed as realistic is, in real life you can focus on any part of the world at any time and the rest isn't in focus, but what you're looking at is. A game can't just make random bits it doesn't want to draw out of focus, because in reality if i look at that building at the end of a very short street, i can see it in focus FFS. Games have to be in focus everywhere all the time because they can't decide which bit of the screen/scene you might be looking at.

AS i said, out of focus being a realism thing, is crap, its hiding lack of power. Very unimpressed with , well most character models, they seem very poor. Animation seems "ok" with most things, flying a chopper and watching someone(if you've nicked it and they want you out) hanging on for dear life till dropping out over the river from miles up is great although thanks to focus you can't damn well see a splash :( .

THis for PC with far bigger draw distance, high level AF is soooo massively needed, and 2xaa is screaming to be used, will be pretty damned good.

The shadows are also truly awful, they make everything look incredibly hazy when they don't need to. Not sure if its playing on a 1920x1200 screen, but the "softer" lighter edge of shadows looks damn crap, and as its fuzzy, looks fairly bad normally but when framerate is crap, with motion blur(another gpu power hiding "realism" effect) it looks horrifically bad.

Overall, though the city has a very nice feel to it, everything is just not as good as it really should be.

Gameplay, its quite nice, some buggy target locking. Frankly there shouldn't be target looking on foot but only when in a damn car, as some of the missions, shooting ruddy bikers :@

But the story is so cliche'd, everything that ever happens in all games is in there. NOt a suprise yet, most of the jokes have been done before, nothing inspiring, nothing EPIC about the story or even remotely enticing.

Gameplay feels good, but its lacking graphically, and story is weak.
 
this PS3 or 360 version ?

I'm still undecided !

I was always going to get the PS3 version, even if I didn't sell my Xbox 360. The game definately seems to benefit from HD install, sometimes it really bashes the HD away, and as a result you have a smooth game, minimal loading times etc. Cannot see how they managed to fit this game on a DVD9! I wonder how much space the game occupies on the BD, considering it installs 3300mb to the PS3 HD.
 
I dont think the loading times are that high on the 360 - the inital load is only 2mins if that, by the time ive taken my trousers off made a drink and scratched my balls im ready to game... the mission loading times are about 20seconds if that - and no loading in between - hardly high in my eyes...
 
I dont think the loading times are that high on the 360 - the inital load is only 2mins if that, by the time ive taken my trousers off made a drink and scratched my balls im ready to game... the mission loading times are about 20seconds if that - and no loading in between - hardly high in my eyes...

I know how long it takes to take off my trousers and scratch my balls, but what type of drink are we talking here, a quick glass of council pop or making a pot of tea and letting it brew? There's a big difference in the length of time it takes to make these drinks y'know! :p
 
I know how long it takes to take off my trousers and scratch my balls, but what type of drink are we talking here, a quick glass of council pop or making a pot of tea and letting it brew? There's a big difference in the length of time it takes to make these drinks y'know! :p

Leaning over to my mini fridge and grabbing a can of drink ~10seconds...

:)
 
I haven't got very far yet, but... Can you still do the taxi/cop car/ambulance and fire engine missions? I was in a cab just then but I couldn't find an option to do cab missions. Does it unlock a little further in?
 
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