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Pretty impressive that the Spurs mascot managed to predict the correct score.
Would have won a fortune if she bet on that 5-0 thrashing lol!
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Would have won a fortune if she bet on that 5-0 thrashing lol!
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Next 3 fixtures tbh. West Ham away won't be easy if WH raise their game and we've all seen how well Newcastle do against the big teams.
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Apparently, Spurs were shocking today. I'm high as hell so forgetting goal order, I think it was the first Suarez goal where the midfield just didn't react at all pre-emptively while Dawson made the sliding challenge. They were ahead of Suarez and could have made an effort to get back just in case, but they didn't, there was zero effort to get back. Most of the goals generally are a result of truly woeful tracking.
People have short memories so I don't know if people remember all the crap he got for playing the absurdly high line with Chelsea that made their defence a complete shambles.
How can he highlight Villa, who are generally pretty awful(and have been this season more often than not) as a team to sit deep and not leave space, but Liverpool weren't a team that deserved this treatment, space, no midfield and a high defensive line against a strong countering team was the call?
The more I see AVB the less I think he has a clue how to manage. They've beaten no one of any quality at all so far this season, they failed to score at all in the games they lost against good opposition and have only won by more than one goal twice all season.
While I'm not saying Liverpool were poor or Suarez wasn't good, I don't think they were great either, there aren't many games they will be given such a free reign in. It was one of the worst performances I've seen defensively from any team this year to be honest.
I don't think anyone that AVB has added to the team has improved the team as yet. I'm someone who didn't rate Sandro, think Holtby/Paulinho are useless, Chadli seems useless. He hasn't got the best out of Soldado, Eriksen or Lamela but at least those guys look like they have potential to improve, the others don't, Dembele can be so much better and used so much more effectively but he's pretty much turning him into a pointless defensive midfielder rather than a creative attacker. Playing him instead of Holtby, upfront to hold the ball up, create chances and play Soldado in would be perfect for the team in general.
Getting rid of BAE while leaving the absolutely useless pile of crap that is Walker in the team is a ridiculous decision. BAE made errors, but he's better offensively than Walker and many times better defensively.
The fact that AVB made the wrong subs, had zero effect on the game either via the subs or tactical changes throughout, had no answer, started entirely the wrong team with absolutely the wrong tactics for the type of team they were going to play. With Chelsea I thought he did everything wrong, last year I thought Spurs at their best, just looked like Redknapps team, and at their worst, well, look like they do now, they just look like AVB's team more often this season than last as his influence and player changes increase..... and none of it is for the better.......
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Spanish media reporting avb has been sacked!
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Hope so, not that I want Spurs to be doing better but I really hate AVB and guys like him, gets gifted a job in a one team league... doesn't entirely destroy the team... becomes a millionaire because some douche thinks "hey Mourinho did the same thing at the same club, so surely he's just as good as Mourinho".
He's a crap manager, woeful at Chelsea finally showing how woeful he is at Spurs. Irks me massively that he can walk into a millions a year job with an even bigger pay out for being fired, on the back of nothing at all. After being shown up as terrible, he gets another huge paying job..... just winds me up.
Arsenal fans showing amazing restraint so far in the forums.
Why?? they arent our rivals anymore.
Anywho ermmm that was an epic spanking by Liverpool, 5-0. I saw the game when it was 2-0 thinking that the game was well and truly over...only to catch the final score on SSN lol.
So not only did they battered by City, they get battered by Liverpool. Sure Arsenal got battered by City yesterday but then unlike the Spurs, we scored 3 and should have had at least 2 more if it wasnt for some dodgy offsides yesterday
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Apparently Gazza has arrived at Spurs with a KFC, a 4-pack of Fosters and a fishing rod.
I think it's a bit harsh for him to be sacked.
Today was dire, but he is in 7th place...which isn't sack-worthy.
Tottenham should expect to finish in 5th or 6th, so given that they are in 7th place - it doesn't seem logical for a sacking.
Today was dire, but he is in 7th place...which isn't sack-worthy.
Tottenham should expect to finish in 5th or 6th, so given that they are in 7th place - it doesn't seem logical for a sacking.
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Probably the amount of money's he spent and how awful they look in attack. Having said that, if he was British the media wouldn't touch him just like they're not touching Moyes... yet.
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Look at who he has beaten and who they've failed to beat. Something along the lines of beaten, Palace, Sunderland, Fulham, Norwich, Villa, CArdiff, Swansea and Hull.
Swansea are the highest team they've beaten, in Swansea's truly awful start to the season and they just barely count as top half of the table. They've won 7 of 8 games against the bottom half, and 1 of 7 against the top. They've not scored a single goal in the 4 games they've lost, they've been totally outplayed against the best teams, and barely competitive against the next 4-5 teams, they struggled in multiple games against those lower table teams they did beat. Narrow wins by one penalty.
I think 5th or 6th will be incredibly hard for them considering their woeful record against the top half and the bottom half having gotten marginally less ****. Palace, Sunderland, Swansea have all improved, Hull/Cardiff can be very hard to beat. Not saying they are good but Spurs struggled to dominate these teams and "destroyed" none of them, and they've improved in general.
They have zero tactical awareness, AVB has zero idea what tactic to use against who... he randomly picks to play a stupid high line, usually when his team has slow CB's against the worst possible team to do it against.
Spurs are getting worse, not better and don't have a good last seasons form to help them through tough games. Throw in that he's outspent most of his competition(all? not really sure what City/CHelsea spent in total to be honest), and made the team worse. As with Moyes, it's not that the team are bad, it's that they are going the wrong way with no sign of his tactics being something that are just about to work, or almost worked, but his tactics being entirely wrong. The same tactics that failed so miserably with CHelsea suggests he can't adapt, can't pick out the games he should do what.
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If he has been sacked, who'd replacing him? Capello? Redknapp?
There's been no news but the Mancini rumours and Clarke firing rumours were going around for a couple of hours before actually being confirmed.
There's been no news but the Mancini rumours and Clarke firing rumours were going around for a couple of hours before actually being confirmed.
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If Spurs had no manager at all, they would have qualified through that Europa pub league group stage. They would also be around mid table and probably still above Man Utd.
AVB has been well and truly found out and if Levy continues to put up with it, then more fool him.
AVB has been well and truly found out and if Levy continues to put up with it, then more fool him.
It depends how you look at it. Redknapp was sacked after finishing 4th, 5th & 4th. Surely AvB was appointed with the task of establishing Spurs in the top 4.
Given the number of other sides, and their resources, that Spurs are competing with, you could argue that it's an unrealistic expectation but I think it's clear that's what Levy wants.
Isnt Fabio Capello a little to "good" for Tottenham?
Mancini would make sense, but I'm doubting if he has been sacked. The position in the league table isn't sack-worthy.
It is true that they were bad against Liverpool and Man City, but you don't get sacked for 2 bad games, against a top 3 side.
When he took charge I'm sure he must've had targets, eg. top 6 finish in the league, Europa Cup Semi Final, etc etc. I can't see how he can be sacked on results alone.
Mancini would make sense, but I'm doubting if he has been sacked. The position in the league table isn't sack-worthy.
It is true that they were bad against Liverpool and Man City, but you don't get sacked for 2 bad games, against a top 3 side.
When he took charge I'm sure he must've had targets, eg. top 6 finish in the league, Europa Cup Semi Final, etc etc. I can't see how he can be sacked on results alone.