Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [14th - 19th October 2011]

Dont bring race or colour into this you little wind up merchant.

Never mention him being black, he is a **** house like the whole French team from 2010 and the pathetic the Union team showed today.

I aint even mad, this is me right now

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Read your own posts.

I couldnt give a toss how mad you are, look at what you actually say.
 
I find it funny that Downing dives but it's Evra who gets to be the bad guy for an imaginary card wave to the ref.

The dive was awful, re Evra though it wasn't just the one incident, he was being a little **** for most of the game
 
The ref deals with the dive. A pro shouldnt be trying to get a fellow pro booked IMO. Maybe its a moot point but its a bit too direct for my liking.

OK thats your opinion. I just dont think its right. If the foul has been given its not up to the player to try an influence the ref.

Its just my opinion. I didnt like Evra doing it so i'll say it.

What are you on about, Downing diving was doing exactly that trying to get a player booked, asking the ref why its not a yellow, how ANYONE can have a problem with that I don't know.

I've said before, its perfectly fine for English players to go up to a ref and ask, in english if thats not a booking, but if a player pretends to wave a card, which is essentially the charades version of "is that not a booking" its beyond awful, its evil and its not his place.

Sorry but, firstly why is it not his place to ask the ref whats going on, why can't ref's be asked why its not a card, when was that made a rule. Secondly, Downing deserved a yellow card, its as simple as that, the ref got it completely wrong, and when the ref doesn't give a card.... what is wrong with Evra asking why not because thats what he's doing.

Quite often, infact mostly, the majority of ref's in football speak English(if not all), which means foreign players tend to learn hand signals to ask the same questions and the majority of English players also use what is basically common sign language in football.

I've asked before, no one ever manages to explain why its okay to ask the question in words, but its awful to ask it using a hand gesture.

Maybe its just me but I hate to see cheating, like Downing, and I have absolutely no problem with players calling ref's on truly awful decisions. There is SUPPOSED to be communication between the ref and the players, and lots of players ask ref's why something was/wasn't a foul all game long. Its simply easier and makes more sense to wave the card and see the ref give a hand signal back or shout back why he hasn't given it, then run over to him, have a discussion and waste time and follow the ref around all game.


Oh, and for the record, Adam's did dive, Suarez went down against Rio aswell with basically no contact, probably not a foul, certainly not a yellow. Lucas, first probably wasn't a yellow, running 15 yards and smashing into a player, no where near the ball, can't fail to see how that wasn't a second.

Also Adam's(i'm fairly sure it was him) dived quite early in the first half in central midfield area.
 
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What are you on about, Downing diving was doing exactly that trying to get a player booked, asking the ref why its not a yellow, how ANYONE can have a problem with that I don't know.

I've said before, its perfectly fine for English players to go up to a ref and ask, in english if thats not a booking, but if a player pretends to wave a card, which is essentially the charades version of "is that not a booking" its beyond awful, its evil and its not his place.

Sorry but, firstly why is it not his place to ask the ref whats going on, why can't ref's be asked why its not a card, when was that made a rule. Secondly, Downing deserved a yellow card, its as simple as that, the ref got it completely wrong, and when the ref doesn't give a card.... what is wrong with Evra asking why not because thats what he's doing.

Quite often, infact mostly, the majority of ref's in football speak English(if not all), which means foreign players tend to learn hand signals to ask the same questions and the majority of English players also use what is basically common sign language in football.

I've asked before, no one ever manages to explain why its okay to ask the question in words, but its awful to ask it using a hand gesture.


Oh, and for the record, Adam's did dive, Suarez went down against Rio aswell with basically no contact, probably not a foul, certainly not a yellow. Lucas, first probably wasn't a yellow, running 15 yards and smashing into a player, no where near the ball, can't fail to see how that wasn't a second.

Also Adam's(i'm fairly sure it was him) dived quite early in the first half in central midfield area.

I dont make the rules. Im offering my opinion.
 
You realise it was Liverpool playing in red? :confused:

First half was fairly even with the only real chance falling to Suarez but 2nd half I thought we were much the better side. As well as our goal we created 2 or 3 good goalscoring opportunities and probably should have had a penalty. In contrast I can't think of another decent chance Utd had other than their goal.

I don't think anyone side was particularly on top at all in the game. Liverpool certainly had a good patch in the second half, but so did United towards the end of the game.

United didn't look good, Liverpool didn't look good either, neither side looked bad, just felt and looked like a chess game to me. I wasn't expecting end to end though to be honest.

United made a couple of decent chances, Liverpool made one or two more. I thought a draw was a fair result.

@ everyone, what apparently happened after the game? Re; Evra / Suarez?

Edit, I'm with Baz on what he said earlier re Evra and the asking for a card thing, Yes Downing should have been booked, blatant dive, but I'd rather see a player wave a card and clearly be shouting "Why haven't you booked him?" then being a whiney little **** and complaining to the ref in quiet, if you think it's a foul or you've been wronged or the ref got it wrong, tell him. Don't go over the top mind.
 
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This is what winds me up, you have to talk about Man United, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal

No wonder fans get worked up and ****** off at the constant drone and zero interaction.

Peace out.
 
Want me to express how ****ing nervous I am about the Steel City Battle tomorrow?
Want me to tell you about how much it annoys me that it's not on television?

Want me to talk about Wednesdays form and team selections?

I do talk about Wednesday, but seeing as the board is populated with fans of the Premier League and mainly Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United and Spurs we talk about them more, because, hey that's what they want to talk about it, There aren't many City fans on here either, but City have stupid money and stupid players so they're going to be discussed.

You want more people to talk about Wigan? You talk about Wigan more or quit 'yo bitching Cheets and join a Wigan FC forum, that's if you have enough fans to populate a semi active board :p

Deal with it. People on here talk about the teams they support, which happens to be some of the bigger / better supported clubs in the land? Seriously. It's not a big deal man.
 
Want me to express how ****ing nervous I am about the Steel City Battle tomorrow?


If it makes you feel better, i fancy Wednesday tomorrow and have a few quid on them as i found them @9/4 which i thought was a great price. I also have them in an acca too so i will be cheering them:)
 
If it makes you feel better, i fancy Wednesday tomorrow and have a few quid on them as i found them @9/4 which i thought was a great price. I also have them in an acca too so i will be cheering them:)

:)

I'm not confident, I'm never really anything other then a wreck before these games, but I don't know. I'm more positive then I usually am though :p

Really looking forward to Roma v Lazio too!

Should be errr two tasty local derbies :p
 
27 - Man City have netted 27 goals so far this season, no side hasever scored more after 8 PL matches (Arsenal hit 27 in '09/10). Prolific.


Yeaahhhh boiiiii!! :cool:

Not that the point needs hammering home to just how epicly wrong everyone was about us, not one of those goals from Tevez :)
 
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OK thats your opinion. I just dont think its right. If the foul has been given its not up to the player to try an influence the ref.

Players are trying to influence to ref all the time though, I still don't see why card-waving is such a heinous crime yet "Oi Ref!", "He elbowed me!" is perfectly fine, why appealing for a corner when it came off you for a goalkick is acceptable, why pointing to your hand to claim a handball is OK etc...

I keep hearing this phrase rolled out (originally in the media but it has propogated to the fans) about "trying to get a fellow professional booked/sent off" as though there should be some sort of secret guild, an us-against-them mentality where the players from both sides should stick together against the ref. The irony is that by definition if you are a professional then it is your job to do the best you can for your employer.

Again when it comes down to 'sporting behaviour' I'll throw out the same argument again, why is claiming a dodgy throw-in any more sporting than suggesting that an opposition player should be punished for cheating? That's one good thing about playing a kickabout game with your mates, there is no BS, everyone knows what each dead ball situation should be.
 
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Want me to express how ****ing nervous I am about the Steel City Battle tomorrow?
Want me to tell you about how much it annoys me that it's not on television?

Want me to talk about Wednesdays form and team selections?

I do talk about Wednesday, but seeing as the board is populated with fans of the Premier League and mainly Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United and Spurs we talk about them more, because, hey that's what they want to talk about it, There aren't many City fans on here either, but City have stupid money and stupid players so they're going to be discussed.

You want more people to talk about Wigan? You talk about Wigan more or quit 'yo bitching Cheets and join a Wigan FC forum, that's if you have enough fans to populate a semi active board :p

Deal with it. People on here talk about the teams they support, which happens to be some of the bigger / better supported clubs in the land? Seriously. It's not a big deal man.

Well done, you are lower league football Wigan are in the EPL ZERO 0 NOTHING ZILTCH interest for years I have tried to build a rapport, tbh hope this is the last season in the EPL for Wigan turns into Arsenal Liverpool Man United, thank god not rose to the bait of Man City fans the same team no investment such is life, Whelan can do what he wants. Shame you had no voice on a forum in the mid 90s :D

Still have to laugh at this Wigan v Man City, 1999 Play-Offs, 1st Leg That was 12 years ago. Mind blown, now they can afford anyone, Dat arab money.

Manc City ****

Fact is lower league football is dead, to many people that should support it, insert 100s of thousands of fans from different parts of the country and you wonder why the English game has gone down the *oi no swearing!*.

Me and you tummy need to go for a pint one day.
 
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