No it wouldn't of been, it would have been daylight robbery
Jesus Christ they're all out tonight aren't they
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No it wouldn't of been, it would have been daylight robbery
Jesus Christ they're all out tonight aren't they
We have a great back three and then Hibbert.
Same old story every year on here, first 3 or 4 games Fergie has lost the plot etc etc, only for the same fans to start crowing when they win or nearly win the title.
I can't believe how gutless SOME fans of United are on here year in year out and still can't see they challenge to the death on the years they have written fergie off. It's as though they are not happy unless they can win the title by 30 points.
Our next big sale, he will now have 5 **** games and go missing against some **** side like Westham. I did say last week United should have bought him to add something to the middle but they were too busy fapping each other off over RVP
United still have the best side in the league, they lost by a tiny margin last year and have added quality to the side. I see no reason for panic. Anyway I haven't come in here to gloat, the 90% of the forum that hate United have already and will continue to do that
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You wouldn't believe that Arsenal had only managed a draw at home to Sunderland would you?
LolUtd..even RVP couldn't save your blushes tonight...what a result for Everton
1-0...deserved that result after the effort they put in in the first and second half.
Really hoping RVP turns out to be a huge flop for Utd
1-0...deserved that result after the effort they put in in the first and second half.
Really hoping RVP turns out to be a huge flop for Utd
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No it wouldn't of been, it would have been daylight robbery
Jesus Christ they're all out tonight aren't they
He's not consistent enough.
Let the Arsenal fans vent their frustration, they'd be beyond foolish to start mocking RvP over one game. I'm sure most of them know that, only complete brainless fools like Piers Morgan don't.
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Stats show he's as consistent if not more so than Valencia? Who weirdly seems to be loved by fans.
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I think Utd are starting to suffer from Wenger syndrome. They should have cut their losses on Anderson, Rafael/Fabio, Carrick years ago. to be fair Carrick wasn't in his best position but he was terrible, as were Utd's tactics.
Despite losing every single last header to Fellani for the corner they scored from Vidic is still helping protect the keeper, this is in most clubs left to someone pathetic and small, Theo sometimes gets that role for Arsenal, its just a buffer, the ball rarely goes in there from a corner, why on earth was Vidic not on the only guy winning every single header for Everton? First 2-3 headers, forgivable, that late in a game, completely unforgiveable for Carrick to still be marking him.
If Fergie had sold the twins and bought replacements, sold Anderson a good few years ago and have a replacement, Carrick a few years ago and have someone like Tiote in there Utd would be a fundamentally better all around team.
Not sure why Kawaga is getting praise, he did one/two good passes, but in terms of driving at the goal, 1-2's, shooting, quick pass and move, Utd all over made far too many pointless tackles. Slowed down every attack, refused to cross quickly/early, refused to pass forwards early most of the game.
RVP really didn't have a chance as not long after the goal Everton moved into siege mentality and were so deep there was at that stage not a lot but long shots and luck to pin your hopes on.
Lastly, Welbeck, 80k a week, not far off what RVP was on only a few days ago.... lol. He's still insanely average at best, its the same thing Wenger has got caught in. Wenger/Fergie 10 years ago would have looked at players like Diaby/Welbeck/Song/Anderson and got shot of them at the first opportunity, now the managers back these players, give them big wages, and give them loads of games. Welbeck is barely good enough to be the 4th string striker at Utd and he got 80k a week.
Despite losing every single last header to Fellani for the corner they scored from Vidic is still helping protect the keeper, this is in most clubs left to someone pathetic and small, Theo sometimes gets that role for Arsenal, its just a buffer, the ball rarely goes in there from a corner, why on earth was Vidic not on the only guy winning every single header for Everton? First 2-3 headers, forgivable, that late in a game, completely unforgiveable for Carrick to still be marking him.
If Fergie had sold the twins and bought replacements, sold Anderson a good few years ago and have a replacement, Carrick a few years ago and have someone like Tiote in there Utd would be a fundamentally better all around team.
Not sure why Kawaga is getting praise, he did one/two good passes, but in terms of driving at the goal, 1-2's, shooting, quick pass and move, Utd all over made far too many pointless tackles. Slowed down every attack, refused to cross quickly/early, refused to pass forwards early most of the game.
RVP really didn't have a chance as not long after the goal Everton moved into siege mentality and were so deep there was at that stage not a lot but long shots and luck to pin your hopes on.
Lastly, Welbeck, 80k a week, not far off what RVP was on only a few days ago.... lol. He's still insanely average at best, its the same thing Wenger has got caught in. Wenger/Fergie 10 years ago would have looked at players like Diaby/Welbeck/Song/Anderson and got shot of them at the first opportunity, now the managers back these players, give them big wages, and give them loads of games. Welbeck is barely good enough to be the 4th string striker at Utd and he got 80k a week.
Our only good attacker today was Kagawa, as you said, the rest were rubbish.
I'm not sure we should be starting Scholes in these tough away games either, he's a bit of a luxury player now unfortunately, he needs time on the ball to pull the strings. Everton won't give him that.
After the hate the club got for signing RVP it was only to be expected that they'd* all come out of the gutter again to gloat tonight.
*they being the nobodies that Ive never even seen in the SA till we signed RVP
Nope he didn't...good decision from Wenger to not play him in the pre-season.
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And why is Nani getting the stickRooney, Young, Welbeck were all equally as bad.
Nani had way way more of the ball than any of the others for one thing. Young like RVP came on post Everton's switch to laying siege to their own goal, the game was pushed into no quality "bundle" style attack tactics. Rooney/Welbeck are strikers who both sucked but rely on midfield to give them better quality. Nani had plenty of the ball and failed to do anything with it, he was by far the most wasteful of their attacking players and also got a daft yellow card and risked another.
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on day one? without any introductions?
No introduction on teh vehicle and equipment he will use?
Not sure about that bruv.
i work in teh software industry and it can take weeks to adjust and fit right into the deep end. last week we recruited a new developer and tried to throw him in the deep end. guess what. its only today he was able to sort eveyrthing out and start diving in.
You honestly think football is as simple as fixing a boiler? far more complicated. as complicated if not more then a software developer role.
RVP has to do a few things:
- adjust to fergies formation and tactics
- learn how all the united players play
You think he can achieve that ina few days of training lol
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Actually I feel sorry for him, not in the sense he has joined utd lol but that his start hasnt been what he hoped for. I still think of him as an arsenal player strangely.
He will come good though once he settles in. If not we will have him back at a knocked down price in January
Apart from his tackling I don't think Scholes got caught on the ball tonight, only criticsm being he maybe played it a little too safe at times
Once again I don't think our injuries should be overlooked, no CB's meant our best midfielder in defence; that weakens both areas of the pitch, no Jones or Smalling also meant playing Valencia at RB meaning limited oppertunities to get him forward early enough in moves, it's obviously somewhat clutching at straws but still
Isn't that exactly what you have to do in international football, especially for your debut or first few games. Sink or swim, become the next Owen or Beattie
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Scholes had AGES on the ball and his very style dictates that he creates the time on the ball, him, Lampard, Xavi, Cesc, their strength is turning away from incoming tackles into a few yards of space to find that killer pass.
Scholes wasn't under severe pressure on the ball tonight at all, especially late on in the game, Everton were just incredibly tight in and around the box and left very very few chances for that killer throughball. The time was there on a plate, the space to make those passes, and the runs/movement from all the front line was awful which basically meant Scholes couldn't effect the game. Rooney/Welbeck/Kawaga constantly moved around in the same space and really none of them spent the game on the shoulder of the CB's nor making many/any runs behind. Kawaga needed to mix it up with some runs into the box, Rooney certainly needed to run at the defence more to open up gaps for others to pass into and Scholes/Rooney/Kawaga needed to shoot from range a few more times, encourage the defence to rush out to block shots.... makes space again.
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