Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [20th - 24th October 2017]

[antijoke]

How can you not get them? There is plenty of other defenders besides dijk. Sanches who spurs had in defence looked better than all of ours and is new to spurs and this league , we have more than one scout if every scout and klopp felt dijk was the only option there deluded.

Just because we don't know them all doesn't mean there not out there, problem is klopp keeps protecting the defence we have now and if he feel that they are genuinely good then he is deluded, he has had enough transfer windows to fix it or least attempt to sign a new defence d

Carragher tweet says it all Rodgers was let go for the same issues klopp is doing now, we can not defend, even worse this defence remains mostly unchanged from Rodgers.

We all know if he bought an unknown everyone would be “who?”

 

[Tombstone]

We all know if he bought an unknown everyone would be “who?”

I wouldnt care, if they were good enough. When Hyppia was signed I said "who?" and he was plenty good enough.

 

[Mark1989]

We all know if he bought an unknown everyone would be “who?”

So you rather we let the same issue repeat itself over and over again? Every player is an unknown to some one that's not an excuse. Klopp is letting his flawed idea ruin the defence entirely.

 

[Stretch]

Klopp will say something like we will learn from this and improve, it cannot happen again etc etc.

Which is what he has said before about the defending but the trouble is they are empty words because we do not learn, we do not improve and it happens time and again. The defence is simply not good enough and the sooner someone at the club acknowledges that the better.

The time to acknowledge this is in the summer, when you can buy replacements. Like the one we just had two month ago.

Virgil van Dijk alone was never going to be sufficient, so the fact we failed to land him still leave me asking what about the others.

 

[Stretch]

A world class manager doesn’t ignore gaping holes in their squad over multiple windows. So what if Van Dijk wasn’t possible, as LFC you can get players better than Lovren and Klaven.

The fact he's on record essentially saying they were good enough does leave him a bit exposed imo.

 

[Ayahuasca]

The fact he's on record essentially saying they were good enough does leave him a bit exposed imo.

Also on record as saying he’ll not single out players and make them feel small, seems to have blown that today with Lolvren.

 

[McBain]

Got to love Klopp, he basically just said if he was on the pitch Son's goal doesn't happen

 

[antijoke]

So you rather we let the same issue repeat itself over and over again? Every player is an unknown to some one that's not an excuse. Klopp is letting his flawed idea ruin the defence entirely.

No, but I agree 100% with him of not buying just for buyings sake.

 

[Mark1989]

No, but I agree 100% with him of not buying just for buyings sake.

So what's your view on the situation then you seem to avoid the point, it's not buying for buying sake when defence is ***** for consecutive seasons

 

[Robbo]

As someone on Sky mentioned, they spent 40 odd million on Chamberlain, they could have bought 2-3 promising/solid defenders for that. It really is strange.

 

[Robbo]

Manyoo spent €35m on Lindelöf. They could have bought a defender for that. Really strange.

£35m, rather than forty odd. But they needed both, tbh - depth with AOC and something at the back. TBH, as I've said many times, it wasn't that unreasonable to think they could get VVD... when previously, in the history of football transfers, had a smaller club turned down that sort of money from a bigger club? They didn't not buy a defender because they spent the money on AOC.

Then they should have bought both, or had a backup plan in case they didn't get VVD. It's inexcusable however you look at it. Not that I'm complaining of course.

 

[Mark1989]

Why should we say alternatives? Excluding dijk there is defenders out there that's just ******* obvious. I could name a few but I'm not a scout for our club, there is times in life when a problem is obvious and so obvious every one around you notices it, this is our defence the entire Premier league fans, rival club knows it we simply can not defend and have made no attempt at fixing it. To use the logic of well you name some one isn't a good arquement, there is other defenders besides dijk we could have got and that is just a simple fact

 

[Stewy]

where's Klavan? is he injured or just somehow... worse?

 

[Stewy]

is it the wrong system that's making Lovren not pick up properly, misjudging headers, making Mignolet only marginally more useful than a green-clad mannequin?

 

[Mark1989]

It's the next stage of the argument. Because you then say, 'well, they could have got Evans for £30m... would that have actually fixed things?' Or Lindelöf for €35m. Or would it be more appropriate to look at the system Klopp's using and think about offering the defence a bit more protection, for example?

Btw, it's their third loss since Feb in the league, tbf.

I'm aware of how much we lost lol I support Liverpool but that's irrelevant when the games we have won our defence is shocking and had been shocking for years how it can be arqued otherwise is baffling

 

[Mark1989]

where's Klavan? is he injured or just somehow... worse?

Klavan is worse than lovren and Matip

 

[cm1179]

Klavan is worse than lovren

is that even possible?

 

[antijoke]

where's Klavan? is he injured or just somehow... worse?

Sat on the bench.

 

[Sui]

Sahko was pretty solid

 

[cm1179]

shafted