Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [28th - 31st August 2015]

First 20mins we were 100% dominant. Had we an inform or more prolific striker I suspect we would have scored.

Highlighted the weaknesses of our keeper, and the fact rooney doesnt have any good competition to up his game.

Should have scored twice today but was caught napping.
 
Watching this match you would be left wondering just what progress lvG has actually made in a year. Very poor stuff indeed. Rooney Gave the ball away with his casual play for the first goal. Interestingly we look like selling both the players that might have helped win a game like that - Di Maria and De Gea. Instead of which we have Romero, Young and Fellaini. Very hard to take any positives from that.
 
Calpol said:
Watching this match you would be left wondering just what progress lvG has actually made in a year. Very poor stuff indeed. Rooney Gave the ball away with his casual play for the first goal. Interestingly we look like selling both the players that might have helped win a game like that - Di Maria and De Gea. Instead of which we have Romero, Young and Fellaini. Very hard to take any positives from that.
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We didn't really have a choice with either to be honest for different reasons

The only thing about each sale was how much Utd could get for each (and Di Maria would have been bullied off the ball, and no way would have been a gaurenteed winner of the game - DDG probably would have saved at least one if not both conceded goals though)
 
FrankJH said:
Well done Swansea - this team need the likes of Otamendi, Pedro (plus a reliable gk) and we let these players go to direct opposition

******* Crazy
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Whatever the reason, it's a worry. As it stands I don't believe an experienced manager like LvG just watched that match and thinks we can't be improved unless we get a real superstar player. If that's what he really thinks then we've got a big, big problem.

xibinim said:
I love stats, but that's some hard reading if true. Clueless.
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The biggest (individual) chunk of that didn't work out, and we got the majority of the fee back, so it's not that much, but still a lot and still quite bad.
 
Robbo said:
Fair result, we were **** and I suspected we'd lose. :(

Well at least things will look better tomorrow night when we've signed Neymar and Bale. Only they can improve us, after all.
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Probably one of the only good things that can come out of today - it's highlighted that we have 36 hours to fix the problem of still no creativity.

I don't blame Rooney because it's just not clicking behind him. I'd still take him over most of the other premiership strikers. I mean who would honestly score in this United team up front? Aguero, maybe Costa? If you isolate any striker it's never going to end well.

Robbo said:
Whatever the reason, it's a worry. As it stands I don't believe an experienced manager like LvG just watched that match and thinks we can't be improved unless we get a real superstar player. If that's what he really thinks then we've got a big, big problem.
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To be fair, there are very few (I can't think of any) top teams that don't have a game changing type player. Real have several. City have a few. It's IMO the primary reason why Arsenal struggle - you do need these types of players like Ronaldo, Bale, Messi etc.

Chances of getting one this late in the day though?
 
xibinim said:
I love stats, but that's some hard reading if true. Clueless.
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Now take off the ~£100m he has got back - and its less than what City have paid out this summer alone

Tute said:
I don't blame Rooney because it's just not clicking behind him. I'd still take him over most of the other premiership strikers. I mean who would honestly score in this United team up front? Aguero, maybe Costa? If you isolate any striker it's never going to end well.
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To be fair I thought Herrera produced some good through balls for Rooney and Mata especially that didn't come off
 
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BaZ87 said:
The scary thing is, all that money's been spent and there's still question marks over the keeper position, CB's, wings and striker(s).
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I think it says more about the appalling state of the team he inherited. There wasn't really a single position that didn't need addressing in some way.
 
Tute said:
Probably one of the only good things that can come out of today - it's highlighted that we have 36 hours to fix the problem of still no creativity.

I don't blame Rooney because it's just not clicking behind him. I'd still take him over most of the other premiership strikers. I mean who would honestly score in this United team up front? Aguero, maybe Costa? If you isolate any striker it's never going to end well.
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An on form Rooney would have probably scored at least twice today, he had chances and fluffed the lot, really, really badly. Didn't even get a shot away in most instances.

Tute said:
To be fair, there are very few (I can't think of any) top teams that don't have a game changing type player. Real have several. City have a few. It's IMO the primary reason why Arsenal struggle - you do need these types of players like Ronaldo, Bale, Messi etc.

Chances of getting one this late in the day though?
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Given we've effectively spent nothing (and are up on wages), we need to be testing the resolve of a few teams. Overspend if necessary, it really doesn't matter.
 
FrankJH said:
We didn't really have a choice with either to be honest for different reasons

The only thing about each sale was how much Utd could get for each (and Di Maria would have been bullied off the ball, and no way would have been a gaurenteed winner of the game - DDG probably would have saved at least one if not both conceded goals though)
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You are missing the point. What I am saying is that LvG has had arguably 3 transfer windows to improve the team and seems to have failed to do that. Arguably the squad is weaker and has less balance. From him saying he has too many number tens he has not addressed that. As we have Mata, Fellaini, Januzaj, Memphis and today Herrera. Meanwhile we have one CF as Falcao and Hernandez are on the way out. The he has added two defensive CMs but no wide right player. Whether or not the players forced a move is not the issue - the issue is that we were as pedestrian today as under Moyes.
 
Calpol said:
You are missing the point. What I am saying is that LvG has had arguably 3 transfer windows to improve the team and seems to have failed to do that. Arguably the squad is weaker and has less balance. From him saying he has too many number tens he has not addressed that. As we have Mata, Fellaini, Januzaj, Memphis and today Herrera. Meanwhile we have one CF as Falcao and Hernandez are on the way out. The he has added two defensive CMs but no wide right player. Whether or not the players forced a move is not the issue - the issue is that we were as pedestrian today as under Moyes.
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valid points but your original point was that both the mentioned players would have won the match today - which isn't entirely true
 
FrankJH said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for spending the whole "kitty" - but LvG has actually only spent (net) about 1/2 of the money quoted
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The problem with stats :p

If you look at net spend this summer it could be interpreted in an even more depressing way or good business (I know which one I would side more with :o).
 
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