Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [29th Sept - 3rd Oct 2012]

So Utd lose and instead of Fergie having a go at his players and their shoddy performance in the first half, he blames the defeat on not enough 'Fergie' time being added.

Nothing new there from Fergie i see, same old tired excuses being dragged out when Utd lose or do poorly :/

Behind closed doors he has probably gone mad at the players he probably did that at half time as in 2nd half United did great. When talking to the press he has to try and shift the blame ect to protect the players.
 
Oh come on...
...begrudge them the result.
I can't think of specific examples, but I'm sure there have been some. It doesn't really matter, you're interpreting my comment too strongly - I'm not saying I expect or require SAF to say anything, merely that it would be showing some particular good sportsmanship if he did go out of his way to say something extra along the lines of "we've benefited from good fortune previously, so we'll take this result on the chin and be better ourselves next time" or similar to your comment: "it's hard to begrudge this result..." Nearly 20 years now of great success and dominance of English football, the greatest manager of his generation, maybe of all time, and still he continues to frequently behave like an absolute tool.

I doubt many will disagree that United deserved something out of yesterday's game
This one of the biggest clichés from supporters and something I think we all do more often than we'd like to admit to. Of course you can say Utd didn't take their chances so the result was entirely fair. For me this was just a very normal, typical result and I would see the result as fair or good whether it had ended 3-2, 3-3 or 2-3. Disappointment for Utd fans, but no unfairness about it.

the smart ones will see Spurs' bad luck in the past and find it hard to begrudge them the result.
This is how it should be and I'm sure is the majority view.

Of course there are a minority Utd fans bleating on about being hard done by and I had to listen to a pair of cretins for over an hour earlier on this very subject (see my above point about SAF and all the success.) To be fair, it is equally annoying as Chelsea fans whining on about needing to spend money after a bad performance, Spurs fans going on about being a big club, Liverpool fans going on about History™ etc. All of the above are fair game to be made fun of and called out for being ******s.
 
Terrible miss from Shane Long. WBA playing some really spacious football with Clarke in charge now.
 
second half maybe. overall. no way.

The BBC is the only outlet quoting that figure, everywhere else is at least 70/30 United. First half we still had significantly more of the ball, we just kept it in our own half and did nothing with it which is fast becoming our speciality.

In the second half apparently you only completed 35 passes. :eek:
 
I'm annoyed how Fergie is complaining about injury time. It's utterly pathetic.

Giggs is becoming more and more anonymous as weeks go by, he does the odd useful thing but he's really not much good. Young teams with energy almost completely nullify him.

Scholes is different in that he can control a game but he doesn't have the legs to manage a powerful, energetic midfield.

Our first half performance was absolutely dire and we didn't honestly deserve anything, despite improving in the second half.
 
I'm annoyed how Fergie is complaining about injury time. It's utterly pathetic.

Giggs is becoming more and more anonymous as weeks go by, he does the odd useful thing but he's really not much good. Young teams with energy almost completely nullify him.

Scholes is different in that he can control a game but he doesn't have the legs to manage a powerful, energetic midfield.

Our first half performance was absolutely dire and we didn't honestly deserve anything, despite improving in the second half.

Pathetic just about sums it up, he really is the sorest of losers. Giggs should be kept for cup games and easy CL ties while scholes still being effective really needs the legs next to him to cover where he can't and to mop up his mistakes.

Manu need to buy Fellani.
 
Giggs is actually terrible now, his legs have totally gone and he can't even pass or run with the ball well anymore. Fergie should have a talk with him and tell him it's time to retire lol.
 
Oh come on name me another manager that's ever said anything like that in the past? No manager is going to care about the decisions that have gone against the opposition in the past only the decisions that go against their team. I doubt many will disagree that United deserved something out of yesterday's game and its from that perspective Fergie will be coming from, supporters are different though, the smart ones will see Spurs' bad luck in the past and find it hard to begrudge them the result.

I seem to remember Joel being hugely pragmatic on the Mendes goal that wasn't. Something like "win some lose some" was said during the interview. It is part of what makes Jol such a legend.

I nearly had a heart attack during that second half. Spurs hardly ever hang on with the skin of their teeth. To do it at Old Trafford was entirely unexpected.

I'm delighted at the result and also for AVB. I want to see more of what he can do.
 
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