Baz, if you can't see how that tackle was dangerous it's probably pointless to carry on, malicious intent or total freak accident, the tackle ended up being dangerous. Studs up on the shin/ankle with that sort of momentum (and completely out of control of his body due to sliding) is more often than not nasty, we've seen it so many times before.
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He did get 100% of the ball though
And have you watched the video or just the stills above? Also, even Utd fans have said it's harsh, so it's got to be at least debatable.
If Spearing's weight was on it's way down into the challenge, then I'd agree. It's not though. He's won the ball and whatever force left in the challenge is on it's way up. He's not going to cause a serious injury with that challenge.
It depends where he catches him I guess. If he catches him in the face then yes, it is dangerous.
It's irrelevant what Spearing was doing, the tackle was dangerous, his foot is making contact just shy of the knee, a potential leg breaker. The rules are quite clear on the fact the lunging in with feet off the ground and studs showing will get you sent off.
In addition to this, love the Liverpool players surrounding, pushing and shouting into the face of the referee.....turning into Chelsea a little now.
Really?
If the left foot of the Fulham player is seriously grounded and he makes no effort to avoid the challenge he would have been leaving the stadium in an ambulance.
Pointless to carry on then
I've seen fouls very similar to that one end up in tears, I don't need to remind you but when Shawcross caught Ramsey he was on the way up too from the peak power of his swing, still plenty of force to break a bone
He didn't lunge though. He comes in and makes a side footed tackle and the momentum of his follow through brings his legs off the ground.
As for the surrounding of the ref. You're a Spurs fan, correct? Take a look at Adam's sending off earlier in the season
That was a freak injury and Shawcross shouldn't have been sent off though
I remember Milan Baros getting a broken ankle from a fair tackle from Markus Babbel. These things happen.
There wasn't enough force in Spearing's challenge to make it likely that the Fulham player would get injured.
He didn't lunge though. He comes in and makes a side footed tackle and the momentum of his follow through brings his legs off the ground.
As for the surrounding of the ref. You're a Spurs fan, correct? Take a look at Adam's sending off earlier in the season
What? Bale telling the referee that he has already been booked? Thats different to players running 40/50 yards to jump into the referees face, take a long hard look at Skrtel's reaction.
As for not lunging, look at the still above incase the live video footage is too fast for you, both his feet are off the ground in that and no aspect of his anatomy is on the ground, a clear lunge.
As for the surrounding of the ref. You're a Spurs fan, correct? Take a look at Adam's sending off earlier in the season
oh yeh, another blatant red. the reaction was of such high feeling because adam almost put bale in a chair for wolves the season before. obviously didn't learn his lesson.
Kevin Davies tackle on Cleverly didn't look like one that would cause serious injury, that was in September and bar 90 minutes of football since he's still suffering with the ligament damage today
I still think the Red was slightly harsh because Spearing did win the ball but it's impossible to say that he couldn't of caused injury with the follow through
That is dangerous, could have done serious damage if the circumstances were an inch different. It wasn't a lunge but ended up looking like one. If Dembele is not stood at an angle on the outside of his foot, his studs would be in the ground and that's goodnight leg. So lucky.
About the offside, discussing it with a ref and Liverpool fan elsewhere, he said Suarez is offside (his arm), I posted back saying isn't it any part of your body you can score with (i.e. his arm can't be offside), he posted back saying the rule doesn't state this and it's any part of your body, making Suarez's arm offside, does anybody else know the rule?
What? The ref wasn't going to even book Adam (although he should have) until Bale and a few other Spurs players surrounded him. That's very different to telling the ref he's already been booked. The ref would have had to shown him the booking for Bale to remind him that he's already been booked.
Rather than look at the still, look at the video. If you're 'lunging' then your body weight is going down into the tackle. Spearing's legs are on their way up when he makes contact. How can he lunge upwards?
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good shot. if any liverpool fan says that the red wasn't justified after that close up then, well, i don't know what to say.
At first I thought it was a bit of a harsh red. Your eyes are drawn to his trailing leg, and he doesn't really make any contact with that, it's just an oddly unnatural movement.
But watch again, and follow the front leg, and it goes right on to the ankle. Both legs are off the ground, he's no way of stopping his momentum, and it's only due to the Fulham player jumping clear that nothing nasty happened.
Definite red, stupid tackle.
But watch again, and follow the front leg, and it goes right on to the ankle. Both legs are off the ground, he's no way of stopping his momentum, and it's only due to the Fulham player jumping clear that nothing nasty happened.
Definite red, stupid tackle.