Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [31st March - 5th April 2017]
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Yeah he slaughtered the bloke and then explained how West Brom cancelled them out.
West Brom did EXACTLY the same thing at Tottenham and still got beaten 4-0, Mourinho has no excuses.
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Sakho 
Make friends with Klopp again please.
Edit: If only Lucas could get a pair of bionic legs, he's still got the brain to play the DM role with the best of them.
Make friends with Klopp again please.
Edit: If only Lucas could get a pair of bionic legs, he's still got the brain to play the DM role with the best of them.
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Just watching the replays of Barkley's challenge on Lovren - it looked like Lovren's leg bent 
Why? When he's good he's very good - big, powerful, dominates strikers, good on the ball but he's far too inconsistent, which he proved over the 3 seasons he was with us. For every game like today there's a game like Leicester away last season where he's a total disaster. That's not to say he's any different to Lovren or couldn't have done better than Klavan at times this season but he's not the answer for us.
We definitely need a CB but the calls for Sakho make no sense to me. We've seen over a number of years that he's not consistent enough to be a long term, first choice solution and his questionable attitude doesn't make him an obvious squad player.
Sakho
Make friends with Klopp again please.
Why? When he's good he's very good - big, powerful, dominates strikers, good on the ball but he's far too inconsistent, which he proved over the 3 seasons he was with us. For every game like today there's a game like Leicester away last season where he's a total disaster. That's not to say he's any different to Lovren or couldn't have done better than Klavan at times this season but he's not the answer for us.
We definitely need a CB but the calls for Sakho make no sense to me. We've seen over a number of years that he's not consistent enough to be a long term, first choice solution and his questionable attitude doesn't make him an obvious squad player.
What a stupid way to look at it, so Barkley should be let off just cause it's a Derby game? No the tackles from Everton were disgrace all match long not that any Everton can can admit it he'll your manager thinks you played well and we over reacted, tackles like Barkley shouldn't happen regardless same as if cans tackle landed it would have been a potential leg breaker which was awful luckily he part pulled out and missed
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Is it that clever, or is he just a big cross baby when things don't go his way?
With the interview I noticed he responded to the interviewer's firmness in defence, so maybe that's how you handle him rather than being all timid.
Just another derby, tackles like any other. I was going to have a punt of Barkley being sent off too, especially after the last one. The players know they get lifted to iconic status for these tackles by the fans, on both sides. Read your own carraghers comments prior to the game:
Besides a goal in the first minute, the thing Liverpudlians and Evertonians want to see from their players in the opening exchanges is a challenge to — in the words of my old youth coach Hughie McAuley — 'rattle the bones'.
It's something I always wanted to do. To this day, I am still sent pictures on social media of collisions I had in derbies with Steven Pienaar and Phil Neville. When the tone needs to be set and the crowd need to be revved up, nothing is better than a big, shuddering tackle.
Go back to the last Merseyside derby just before Christmas. Ross Barkley was lucky he didn't break Jordan Henderson's ankle. And one of the worst tackles I ever saw came from Michael Owen on David Weir in a derby. Steven Gerrard was guilty of a few bad ones, too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Carragher-footballer-capable-leg-breaker.html
For once I agree with him and I didn't moan about Colemans injury either, just about every derby I have ever seen has been like this. It doesn't fill me with hate like some of you because going through the 80's Liverpool were actually a team to measure yourself against so it means far less to me now. Liverpool always seem to be far more up for these matches than Everton and will then go and lose to Bournemouth.
I get what carra is saying but you can tackle hard and safe however Everton were going studs in that's a different story. I have seen many Derby games and there have been plenty of tackles that were hard but last few Derby have gone the other way with more intent of danger and studs in imo
Why do Everton regularly have players sent off or come away fortunate not to have players sent off in these matches if they're not up for it?
Carragher was right in what he said post match yesterday, Everton have a mental block against Liverpool and I'm sure you'll deny it personally (and maybe you're an exception) but imo it's down to the fact that a sizeable section of the Everton fan base are obsessed with Liverpool. The derby means far more to Everton than it does Liverpool - I've always had the feeling that a lot of Evertonians would accept finishing 19th if it meant Liverpool finished 20th. I have no doubt that pressure is felt by the Everton players.
As for this issue with challenges. There's a difference between hard challenges and attempting to injure opponents. How many more times do you give Barkley the benefit of the doubt? And this isn't just about Barkley - last season Mori celebrating injuring Origi, walking off kissing his badge. It's not only first team games either - if any senior Liverpool player ended up playing in a reserve game, you could guarantee a young Evertonian would go in knee high on him. Anichebe on Dudek in a reserve game years ago always sticks out in my mind.
As I touched on yesterday, the ref played a huge part in what happened yesterday. Barkley made one of those hard challenges Carragher's talking about less than 30 seconds into the game, he got let off. He made another on Can mid way through the half, as clear a yellow as you'll ever see, he got let off again. If Taylor books him for either of those challenges, like he should have, then Barkley doesn't put that challenge in on Lovren. Taylor allowed the challenges to get worse and worse by not taking any action earlier in the game and both Lovren and Can were fortunate not to end up getting serious injuries as a result.
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City's entire line up may be compromised by Ramsey and Ox not playing in central midfield, they were obviously expecting no opposition there 
The question is were Ramsey and Ox rightly dropped for being **** and Wenger is making excuses for why they've been dropped? Or are they actually injured and Wenger would once again insanely pick Ramsey in a big game when he can't defend and isn't much use going forwards?
I'd like just once to see Wenger come out and say something like Ramsey has been poor, he's injured but he wouldn't start anyway as his performances have been unacceptable. All our players just cruise through every game, Ramsey is currently as bad as he's ever been for Arsenal but was starting pretty much every game regardless.
The question is were Ramsey and Ox rightly dropped for being **** and Wenger is making excuses for why they've been dropped? Or are they actually injured and Wenger would once again insanely pick Ramsey in a big game when he can't defend and isn't much use going forwards?
I'd like just once to see Wenger come out and say something like Ramsey has been poor, he's injured but he wouldn't start anyway as his performances have been unacceptable. All our players just cruise through every game, Ramsey is currently as bad as he's ever been for Arsenal but was starting pretty much every game regardless.
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One long ball, Mustafi trying to win a header on the half way line ends up woefully out of position then we concede. Why the hell aren't our midfielders trying to win that with Mustafi staying safe. Almost got a fluke deflected goal, but down 1-0 less than a minute later.
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Ozil will probably score to get back at me but, what a ****. Sanchez runs down the wing, gets an awkward ball, runs forward, cuts inside keeps the ball till he can pass it. Ozil receives it just outside the box and he's not at all ready to do anything with it. Had plenty of warning and quite a bit of space but takes a touch but stands still, doesn't take the first touch into space and away from players who will close him down. Lost it nearly instantly. Dangerous position turned into City possession because Ozil is ridiculously slow on the ball 98% of the time he plays.
He looks good almost exclusively against worse opposition where people don't put him under pressure. We should absolutely sell him, there is a reason Real were much more clinical and much more effective in the biggest games after he left, because he just doesn't perform in these games under the pressure of top players closing him down.
He looks good almost exclusively against worse opposition where people don't put him under pressure. We should absolutely sell him, there is a reason Real were much more clinical and much more effective in the biggest games after he left, because he just doesn't perform in these games under the pressure of top players closing him down.