Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [7th - 11th February 2015]
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given the money floating around the Premiership currently I don't see why Utd couldn't sell him for a small fee (sub £10m) - would be worth it for a mid-table team.....now whether RvP would go is another matter, but if Utd aren't going to give him games (or becomes 3rd/4th choice) , who knows.
Wages are irrelevant until the right team is found - but again it also depends on RvP's mentality whether he wants to play or not.
I don't see why Utd couldn't get £30m or more from selling a small handful of players (given that English players in the EPL you would expect to get a little more) , not juust those you mentioned.
The question is who would Chelsea and RM ditch to give a space to Pogba - right now Im not sure why he would choose either (unless he knows certainly one or two of those teams are selling). And just for the record I said a player LIKE pogba - as I don't believe he would re-join Utd anyway.
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Anyone else watching the African Cup of Nations final? How was that not a red card?.
me. Couldn't see why not and Salah Die should be off too for 2nd yellow !
This was from a month ago, so I doubt Chelsea are anywhere near United...
Most long balls attempted in Premier League this season:
Burnley 1861
Man United 1701
QPR 1681
Leicester 1668
This guy is no good for your club, it seems to be accepted with this "we can see improvement" because the last guy was even worse. Yet week in week out it's dire football, dire tactics despite the players. He clearly cannot train or motivate them anymore than Moyes. He's not getting more out of anyone and just about ruined your most promising player from last year. If you miss out on the CL again, it's going to be another bunch of average assembled at huge expense and a load of players you bought wanting out.
Another passing stat for the season:
Shortest average passing distance in Premier League this season:
Man City 17.6 yards
Arsenal 18.4
Chelsea 19.6
Tottenham 19.8
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Wow. Just wow.
Yeah average was a bit harsh, more like great players he's making average.
Exactly, it's unforgivable whoever the manager is. Game in game out on here United fans are moaning about formation, tactics, subs, style of play then try to claim some improvement. Yeah there's league position in an odd year to point at but all through last year we were told time and time again that wasn't what mattered. It was the "manchester united way" "manchester united style of football"
Horse ****. If you put up with that dire football to get fourth you are as much about getting the result as stoke
"we don't mind if we are not winning things, it's about how we play"
**** off!
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Most of our issues can be solved by playing two midfielders. You don't see any other team playing with 3 strikers and one of them in MF. You lose creativity and defensive stability.
One of RvP or Falcao needs to be dropped and Herrera put in MF. If LVG misses out on top 4 then he deserves to get the sack.
One of RvP or Falcao needs to be dropped and Herrera put in MF. If LVG misses out on top 4 then he deserves to get the sack.
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Janujaz is an awful player. He is slow, holds onto the ball for far to long, doesn't put any effort in. Almost seemed like the Man Utd players turned up for their pay cheques. Shocking performance and West Ham should have beat us. Wish they had, this team needs a kick up the ass.
However, Daley ******* Blind
However, Daley ******* Blind
You've had the knives out for him ever since your beloved Moyes was sacked. You're also keen to pipe up whenever we get a negative result, but just say nothing if we win.
I'm not saying he's been great - just good - but he's done a lot of good, and more needs to be done. Just look at the defence, everyone was saying how bad it is, and now it's one of the best in the league. That's the manager (and the goalkeeper, yes).
At the moment the players he's picking don't work in the system he wants to play, that's the main fault. I don't agree with some of his team selections, but that doesn't make him rubbish. He's restored a lot of what Moyes destroyed, confidence, 'never say die' attitude, among other things. And he carries himself much better, which does help from a media perspective.
I think there are still plenty of problems, ones that will need the summer transfer window to fix, but I have no issue with how we play as long as we get results. I'd rather play dull, terrible football and come 3rd/4th than fancy attacking football and come 5th/6th. I think he'll review how he wants us to play come the summer, and end up reverting to his favoured 4-3-3 style, which he obviously doesn't think will work at the moment.
Moyes was going backwards, LvG is slowly going forwards. But, you've been told this before...
Edit: Just to add, I do hope we play better football, and I think LvG does need to look at fixing the way we play (he's said he will), but it's not the most important thing for this season.
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Why do people always have to get bitter and chuck that out. Literally how many times did I or do I have to say Moyes was the wrong for the job and I was wrong. Are you so used to you lives never admitting you are wrong about anything?
It's nothing to do with moyes, even in my posts in this thread I have said he(lvg) is acceptable because he's not as bad as the last guy. Yet you still can't let that go. How odd.
I had the knives out as you put it, because his recent history isn't glowing. I think his time has past. Why is that so unbelievable when it's often discussed with other managers.
He's spent a load of money and your football is still ****. You're a long ball team when you have some amazing talent. Moyes had to go, but this guy is not the answer.
You do love Moyes though.
I bet you'd genuinely have him back over Martinez (I wouldn't blame you)?I've not really noticed you saying LvG is 'acceptable' (or anything positive), fair enough if you have.
Amazing talent? I'm not so sure. Our only true world class player of late is Di Maria (based on what he did last season). Overall the squad is good, but getting on a bit in some respects, and needs further freshening up.
Having said that I do agree the football isn't good enough, and plenty of what LvG does baffles me (such as wanting to play possession football, but leaving out Herrera), but there we go. I think he's the answer for now, at least. I'm fairly happy with him.
We're also only a 'long ball team' when our plan A fails (which it usually does if being pressed), we don't set out to play long ball - but we did against Cambridge and it was wise as they were always going to be sat deep.
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Avon finals gone to pens. Eurosport now.
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Or ITV4 if you've only got council telly
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How much did Bony cost
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The guy has played like 2 games since November? Maybe give him a bit more of a chance. Can't be expected to perform when he is left out for so long. I thought he did some good stuff, a nice interchange with RvP set him up for a chance and his play with Shaw was the highlight of of a lot of our moves.
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So I didn't notice this at the time but check out Rooney and Shaw's spooky synchronised celebration for the goal! gif
You do love Moyes though.
Love, no very grateful, yes. My only issue with Moyes at Everton was how he would buy a decent striker, isolate and destroy them. So many lone strikers ran into the ground. Of course he was negative against the top 4 too. I think he would have done at least as well as Martinez last season with the squad and injection of money, finally. We would also have more chance of keeping hold of our players this year, rather than have them bail when we finish 12th or lower. Moyes would sort us out right now inside of 5 games and not to the detriment of playing style because we are woeful anyway and still look like we have forgotten about supplying the frontmen. Moyes at least worked to our strengths, this tard has stopped us crossing when we have two of the better ball deliverers in the league.
That's not to say I don't now accept how he folded when he took the step up. He did and he had to go.
