But this is impossible. And if it weren't, it wouldn't last. You are chasing a fantasy. And why 144Hz? What about when 200Hz monitors are the norm? 200 FPS in every game? Where does it end? A drop to 199FPS and you throw your PC out the window?
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GTX 1070 - any takers?
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But this is impossible. And if it weren't, it wouldn't last. You are chasing a fantasy. And why 144Hz? What about when 200Hz monitors are the norm? 200 FPS in every game? Where does it end? A drop to 199FPS and you throw your PC out the window?
Are you implying 1080p is cheap?
I'm sure I could find you one that is more expensive than a 4k monitor.
OK, well I don't actually know if you're being for real or not, but if so I hope you're prepared for a long old wait, given it will be MANY years before we arrive at a point where a GPU can literally max out EVERY game at 200FPS without a single frame drop. This is assuming they are even making 1080p 200Hz monitors for people like you when everyone else has moved on to OLED and wireless VR.
Have you tried G-Sync with a 980Ti at 1080p? It was no good for you??
Mate don't forget you started with this 200hz, I simply stated 144Hz 1080p and that a GTX 1080 can't even max the monitors refresh rate out with maxed settings in games, Why would I get a higher resolution monitor when I prefer fluidity?
I agree , the fact the cheapest "Mid range" 1080 on OC/UK is £525.99 makes me laugh.
I'm sorry, but I always found the concept of £400+ for high end cards in the past a rip off but mid range for £500 +?
I'm into my PC's, love gaming but have always upgraded at Mid range as I could never justify the high end prices for my level of uses, pricing of mid range kit these days is most likely to kill my interest in PC gaming full stop.
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You seem to be confused on the difference between mid-range and high range. The mid range cards are the 50-65 range so the 1065 is at the top of the mid-range card family at sub $300.
The high range family is the range 70-95 so even the 1070 is in the high range although at the bottom of the high range family. High range is over $300.
Calling a high range card mid range and then complaining when its not in a mid range price is just silly. Its a 1080 not a 1065 so don't expect 1065 prices. Or to look at it another way the 1080 might be the fastest NVidia card on the market for a year if the TI isn't until 2017. Yet people on here want to call the current flagship fastest card mid range!
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This^
My 970 will run the upcoming Deus Ex and Dishonored 2 just fine at the 1080p I use. So no plans to upgrade this year.
And within the next 6-12 months, with the new PS4 Neo and XBOX Scorpio, it looks like 1080p@60 fps is here on the consoles. I'll be looking to grab one of those instead of an overpriced mid-range card at £500+. And, of course, all the software is far better stabilised on the consoles than the PC these days.
Here's hoping AMD can shake things up in the next 12 months. Because if not, it's bye-bye PC gaming from me (it was nice knowing you whilst it lasted..
)EDIT: Not to mention the fact that you can still get discs for your games on the consoles, so can sell the game on and get most of your cash back. Unlike the DRM-laden "rental schemes" we essentially have on the PC these days.,
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This "4k 60 fps" doesn't make sense. Games are more demanding each year, it's not just about GPU being more powerful.
You're just playing with labels here.
What's the best performing GPU available? The 1080. That is as high end as it gets.
If the most demanding games are maxed out a single 1080 is only just up to the job @1080p, 4k would need 4 of them.
If people want to run 4k on reduced settings you can use any single card for that.
Having said that what settings people want to use is entirely up to them.
Yeah is just the idea of the sweet spot - it's not like all games perform the same.
A good 80% of what's available can be already maxed out at 4k 60fps by one gpu.
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GTX1070 and GTX1080 ARE midrange... just like 980 and 970 were and 670 and 680...
They are all the cut-down 2/3 size chip... 1080TI and Titan-1080 will be the full size chip, the high-end parts.
This prospective is a bit skewed.
That means the 980Ti is high-end while the 1080 is mid range.
That said I would rather have a mid range card than the high-end.
I think performance dictates what's high and mid-range at any given time, not what's actually inside the card or Nvidia's profit margins.
The fact a full fat chip will come out in 6 months doesn't make the 1080 any slower - it is still as good as it gets. And that - for me - is high-end.
You know, talking as someone who has a 980Ti, so it should be easy for me to pretend is any better than the 1080.
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GTX980 was not mid range and there was a 6 month gap between the launch of these cards.
The price on the Ti/Titan puts them outside most of our reach or rather very difficult to justify.
I won't be considering them, when they get released I'll just buy a second GTX1080 and that will be me sorted.
It was actually nearly 9 months between the 980 and the 980Ti!
The 1080 is high end. It will be classed as midrange on the arrival of the Titan and Ti. At the current time it's the fastest card available.
In 8 months that will change. 8 months after that will change and then on.
I've gone for 1080s. Should last me until the 1180 and 4k 120/144hz. Don't fancy spending £1200+ for the new Titan.
In 8 months that will change. 8 months after that will change and then on.
I've gone for 1080s. Should last me until the 1180 and 4k 120/144hz. Don't fancy spending £1200+ for the new Titan.
I think he and in all fairness, myself included base it on graphics card generations to distinguish the cards "tier"
I.e. I don't class the 9 series as directly comparable to the 10 series.
I judge them by their respective groups i.e.
9 series gpus went
low end; 950/960
mid range; 970/980
high end: 980ti/Titan x
10 series will follow the exact same structure. (and I base it on what will be the full range not just what is currently released)
low end; 1050/1060
mid range; 1070/1080
high end; 1080ti/Titan
there is no intermingling of the different series when categorising gpu tiers
That's how I view it anyway