GTX 980 / 970 Discussion

Gibbo · 23 Sep 2014 at 19:25

psychas said:
how come 980 / 970 don't have game bundles i guess because they selling without them pretty quick ?

Correct.
Those bundles cost NVIDIA big money so they won't give away any games until they need to do something to help sales and right now 9xx just keeps selling out.

Orangey · 23 Sep 2014 at 19:32

When AMD was currying huge favour with the Never Settle bundle NV did make a token effort, giving away ingame currency to some online games. Did that make any difference Gibbo?

Gibbo · 23 Sep 2014 at 19:34

Orangey said:
When AMD was currying huge favour with the Never Settle bundle NV did make a token effort, giving away ingame currency to some online games. Did that make any difference Gibbo?

We did not really bother with in-game currency stuff, pretty boring. I want a free AAA title and right now the AMD bundle is very win, Alien Isolation and that Mustang ship for star citizen is superb value.

Final8y · 23 Sep 2014 at 19:43

Mal X said:
there's no room to get the third pipe on it anyway

They could have shifted the pipes to the left and gotten on half of each.
They could have shifted the pipes to the left and made them slightly thinner and had them all full on which would shut people up.

stulid · 23 Sep 2014 at 19:57

They could have added a cold plate to spread the heat, just like MSI have - http://cdn.overclock.net/0/0b/0b19c93e_msi970-6b.jpeg

ASUS and Gigabyte both got three/four heatpipes directly over the core,

http://cdn.overclock.net/1/17/17a2eaa8_asus970-10b.jpeg
http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d9/d909ca52_Image_04S.jpeg

Besty · 23 Sep 2014 at 21:41

My first 980 has arrived (evga sc). How do I oc the ram properly on these do I need to give the ram volts?

Geeman1979 · 23 Sep 2014 at 22:13

Besty said:
My first 980 has arrived (evga sc). How do I oc the ram properly on these do I need to give the ram volts?

Do they even have the option to add ram voltage?

Kaapstad · 23 Sep 2014 at 22:40

I just had a thought, has anyone tried or is it even possible to flash a 970 to a 980.

Orangey · 23 Sep 2014 at 23:20

It's not like 290/290X where it's the same PCB. I wouldn't like to try running a full GM204 on a 760 PCB

Mal X · 24 Sep 2014 at 02:15

it seems from the reviews that the MSI is the best

inverseSquare · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:20

Orangey said:
Sorry for being lazy but what does DSR actually do? I flicked through the vid on mute, it looked like it required game support (different parts of screen rendered at different rez)?

Does require game support, yeah.

It basically looks like downsampling but they are using some special filtering technique, so perhaps it's lower cost than a brute force approach?

....but, that's what normal AA is - it's extra sampling to reduce artefacts. Can be done brute force or some sort of adaptive system.

That's why I'm a bit more interested with MFAA, hopefully it's not expensive to use, and it's using temporal effects to smooth out the aliasing

http://youtu.be/Nef6yWYu0-I

inverseSquare · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:21

Mal X said:
it seems from the reviews that the MSI is the best

Think it has the longest warranty too?

smogsy · 24 Sep 2014 at 07:24

inverseSquare said:
Does require game support, yeah.

It basically looks like downsampling but they are using some special filtering technique, so perhaps it's lower cost than a brute force approach?

....but, that's what normal AA is - it's extra sampling to reduce artefacts. Can be done brute force or some sort of adaptive system.

That's why I'm a bit more interested with MFAA, hopefully it's not expensive to use, and it's using temporal effects to smooth out the aliasing

http://youtu.be/Nef6yWYu0-I

I think its tom from nvidia says it needs no game support every game I've tried works from black flag to grid to dota 2 it won't show in geforce experience

For example gfe thinks I cannot handle maxed settings on black flag at 2560x1080 I hit the res switched to 3880*1537 60fps constant maxedmaxed
I think for my res not many gfe samples are done but most of all DSR doesn't need game support

You need to specify what res you want for me its 1.5 my current res

Yaayuh! · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:02

Kaapstad said:
I just had a thought, has anyone tried or is it even possible to flash a 970 to a 980.

The 970 PCBs look so different and the fact there isn't a reference 970 yet (that i can find) I very much doubt it's possible on such different PCBs, let alone the fact that nVidia lock the **** out of their GPUs.

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:07

Rossi~ said:
The 970 PCBs look so different and the fact there isn't a reference 970 yet (that i can find) I very much doubt it's possible on such different PCBs, let alone the fact that nVidia lock the **** out of their GPUs.

We live in hope but I think you are probably right.

JediFragger · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:29

They ain't as slack as AMD when it comes to unlocking shaders

barmyllama · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:32

DSR doesn't work with SLI enabled.

smogsy · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:47

DSR doesn't work with SLI enabled.

it does, i use it with SLi enabled and get 99% on both cards :confused:

you can tell the difference because 1 its much sharper 2 afterburner text goes a lot smaller

tested with Black flag,Dota2,Grid

so when click your res in GFE at the top it does not give you a high res than your monitor?

the only game that auto does in by default in my libary is Dota2 the rest i have to click the resolution & change it manually

see here Proof, i have 10 minute video with action i was going to put on Youtube if you wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOjZSbRGxY

JediFragger · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:48

nm, answered above

ryryryan · 24 Sep 2014 at 08:58

So which is generally regarded as the better card (ignoring price) - MSI or Gigabyte?

Swaying more towards Gigabyte because the slightly higher clocks from the box, looks better in my system, and I like the backplate.