It seems the standard approach for CT loons is to conflate a load of unrelated stuff, tell people to go read some conspiraloon website or watch some video.... but muh false flags etc..
What is so hard about just explaining your position? I'm simply asking you about your claim re: WTC7, there is no need to go off on a tangent about some New Pearl Harbour or whatever other guff you're paranoid about.
Why?
It is a straight forward question - why is the "official story" rubbish? What specifically do you believe to be rubbish and why?
Are you able to just give a straight forward explanation of your position there?
Can you relax and stop calling me names? I've been polite and with every post you include "loon", "crackpot", accusations of paranoia etc. I know you're assuming a position of intellectual superiority (because of course you're right and I'm a "crackpot", nice critical thinking there) but name calling? It makes me cringe every time I read it.
You're also presumably extending those slurs to millions of people who think like I do,
like a majority of Germans. Germans who, by the way, are acutely aware of military powers lying to their people in order to justify war.
My point is basically:
- The official story is wrong, on many counts, and history will eventually see those that question it (omg you're a nut case!) proved right, as has been the case for dozens of other conspiracies that turned out to be true (see my previous post for a selection)
- Anyone studying it in detail, and without bias, will come to this conclusion (as have millions of people, including engineers, academics, families of the 9/11 victims, firefighters on the ground during the day, architects etc)
- One of the most relatable points is WT7, which provably could not have collapsed as it did according to the official story. NIST admits the building fell at freefall for a period of time, which as many independent experts have shown, cannot tie in with fire causing the collapse. Freefall is impossible for a naturally collapsing building.
But you won't look into it, because you know you're right, and that anyone questioning the official story must be nuts. Even though, that mindset in itself is nuts, and history proves so.
@Mulder - I know I'm going to regret asking, but...
Presumably dowie is right and you believe that 100s if not 1000s of government employees and military personnel carried the operation you believe occurred... and that the silence of these people has been successfully maintained for over 16 years, through subsequent administrations of both Republicans and Democrats ... And so, what about Trump?
How has he been pursuaded to play along?
Also, is there any evidence that you can think of that would disprove your theory?
People speak out, you just don't really read about it. Other than occasional articles in the UK media (the Guardian has covered it a bit). Firefighters on the day, victims families, heck even the chairman and various members of the 9/11 commission itself challenged the "official" report. It made precisely zero mentions of WT7, which caused a lot of the criticism, but I guess they knew it was one of the weakest parts of the story. Besides, you wouldn't need that many.
Yes, there's evidence on both sides, as always. All you can do is weigh it all up and make your own conclusions.
No idea on Trump, your guess is as good as mine. Even if he did believe it, I doubt he'd go public, for fear of getting the same reaction as many on here do.
I've already said I personally find it doubtful 9/11 was an inside job, but going by the track record of certain shady plots/conspiracies that turned out to be true, I'm willing to keep an open mind and not hop on either train right now.
Exactly. It's provable conspiracies have been true, so why couldn't this one be.
So it seems some of these crackpots have submitted some petition to the US Attorney and they're bound to investigate, there doesn't seem to be anything significant, it is the same old CT stuff... only now they're trying to make a Grand Jury take a look at it, which may or may not happen as the reply they've had from the US attorney is rather terse:
https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11...-berman-will-comply-with-18-usc-section-3332/
"we will comply with the provisions of 18 USC 3322 as they relate to your submissions"
So either there is some reason the US attorney can turn around and say "erm yeah, this is guff" or a Grand Jury can take a look at it and likely say "err yeah this is guff"
It doesn't really seem like anything to be excited about, no one has provided any vindication for them and their claims - nothing has changed there other than they've just submitted something that the US attorney seemingly has to take note of and the US attorney has acknowledged that they've received the petition.
"Crackpots". Nice.