Halal, is it meat you're looking for?

360,000 Jews actually according to 2001 census.
I was questioning your figures I went and checked. So sarcasm failure I'm afraid.

How is it sarcasm failure, one number is clearly bigger than the other.

And why use 2001, add a decade onto that. 263k 2011 census.
291k according to Jewish library.
 
Not sure religion is a race :confused:

It's obviously not, but since the majority of muslims are dark skinned, their religion can often be used as an excuse to be racist.

Personally, I got a bit angered by this whole halal story. Then I was corrected on my misconception that the animal has to be conscious during the slaughter, and I felt a bit foolish. Far as I'm concerned, so long as the animal is stunned and doesn't suffer more than it has to, I'm fine with it. They can go ahead and mumble their magic words during the slaughter, I don't care.
 
It's obviously not, but since the majority of muslims are dark skinned, their religion can often be used as an excuse to be racist.

Personally, I got a bit angered by this whole halal story. Then I was corrected on my misconception that the animal has to be conscious during the slaughter, and I felt a bit foolish. Far as I'm concerned, so long as the animal is stunned and doesn't suffer more than it has to, I'm fine with it. They can go ahead and mumble their magic words during the slaughter, I don't care.

Should have been somewhere in between your initial and latter position.

In Uk 10% of halal meet is not stunned. And imported meat is even worse.

The issue is there is no way to know. As there no requirements for labelling if it's been stunned. You can't even avoid that 10% as halal isn't even required to be on labelling. Same with Kosher, however I don't know the figures for that. But seeing as it's a far smaller portion of Jews and a lot fewer kosher establishments it's slightly less of an issue, although should still be banned.
 
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How is it sarcasm failure, one number is clearly bigger than the other.

And why use 2001, add a decade onto that. 263k 2011 census.
291k according to Jewish library.

Dude it's not easy counting zeros, for some, in Muslim issue threads I think it would be better to leave numbers and counting and stuff out of the thread in recognition of the fact that such threads attract the hard of thinking forum members.
 
No the difference is, most of the big Jews have a say in. Meaning in the background they say, and people do it.

In short they do it in the sly making sure the public are not aware of it. It's been going on for years. Why do you think only live in Jew areas. You wont find one on a non jew area now will ya?

Dude it's not easy counting zeros, for some, in Muslim issue threads I think it would be better to leave numbers and counting and stuff out of the thread in recognition of the fact that such threads attract the hard of thinking forum members.

It's not just numbers, see post above yours :p
 
Originally Posted by Sho
No the difference is, most of the big Jews have a say in. Meaning in the background they say, and people do it.

In short they do it in the sly making sure the public are not aware of it. It's been going on for years. Why do you think only live in Jew areas. You wont find one on a non jew area now will ya?

now that is fundamentally racist. Are you a Muslim because from what I've seen there is much racial hatred towards the jewish community from most Asians/ muslims. And they can be quite overt about it.
 
How is it sarcasm failure, one number is clearly bigger than the other.

And why use 2001, add a decade onto that. 263k 2011 census.
291k according to Jewish library.

First link I saw wanted to quickly check figures as I was generally surprised at the numbers tbh.
The sarcasm was you implying that I can't count.
I can count fine thanks,.
 
The whole vegetarian being served meat thing verses halal meat is silly.
It is illegal to disguise meat as vegetrain.

There however is no law that requires companies to state rearing or slaughter methods.
So that who thing is stupid.

No one thinks it's the law so I don't know why that comes into it, vegetarians don't want to eat meat because of ethical reasons, some people don't want to eat meat which has been slaughtered in a way they find inhumane (ethical reasons.) Saying all meat is the same is silly as is saying it's silly to compare the two just because one is illegal.
 
What I don't get is why can't it be made mandatory for meat to be clearly labelled? Stunned/non stunned, bolt to the head/slit throat etc. like the labels used here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27329870 Then everyone can make an informed choice, even these guys would be happy:

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Birmingham..but it got my thinking way way back to when a few of salman rushdie books were
buried in the concrete right at the front of where they pray in the mosque :D

And they still don't know where they are lmao.
 
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