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This isn't really the case though is it? As a society for whatever reason we have decided that animals should be stunned or bolted prior to slaughter. This is for animal welfare reasons. If animal welfare is important enough to legislate for, why is it not important enough across the board? We have decided as a society that it is not acceptable to carry a knife, why is that not important across the board? (Especially considering the historical use of the Kirpan).
Effectively it is discrimination, whether positive or negative, it is still discrimination. You also seem to be saying that because you self identify as a muslim, catholic or anglican it is OK for those organisations to discriminate against you for reasons we have deemed unacceptable in the wider community.
How much non-halal meat have you eaten to compare and contrast?
Little in this world can beat a bacon butty, using quality wilthsire bacon, on white, with heinz ketchup.
Comedy gold
Biggest laugh of the evening for me...
How much non-halal meat have you eaten to compare and contrast?
Eaten enough to know that halaal is a much better and tastier option than haraam meat
...yes bad muslim me
but i didnt have the choice back then as i was in a place where it was near enough impossible to get halaal meat...as for bacon??...yeh ive tried it and promptly threw up...guess being muslim means pork does not compute for my tummy.Thats why i always wash my meat when i get it home from the halaal butchers...if i dont then my mum cleanses the meat from all blood...sure there will be a few traces of it but as long as the majority of the blood is drained then theres no problem
...Eaten enough to know that halaal is a much better and tastier option than haraam meat
Your problem is cheap meat, not halal or haraam. Especially as it seems for most halal meat there is actually no difference, unless you honestly believe saying a prayer changes the taste...
Alternatively it does not compute with your sensibilities and so you reacted because of that instead. What with muslims not being biologically different.
If I can just chime in with my five pen'orth. That's pretty much what I was going to say. You don't like it because you've been subconsciously told not to when you were younger. Your body, unless it's pretty much allergic to pork (unlikely), don't care one way or the other - your brain says otherwise because it's been trained to believe this.
I agree about the law thing, I can't understand how something that is against the law should be given an exemption just because it's part of a religion. Religious requirements should never be above the law. That goes for anything, not just halal meat, but for example Sikhs being allowed to wear their turbans whilst riding a motorbike rather than a helmet. What if it was part of some certain religion that a member of the public needed to be slaughtered every day, because the religion said so, would that be ok for an exemption because it's part of the religion? If not, why not? It's convenient to draw the line isn't it!
And no, as I disagree with the whole halal idea, I can quite honestly say that to the best of my knowledge i've never eaten halal meat, being as I don't eat in fast food chains, or takeaways or anywhere else they might serve it. The last and only McDonalds I ever ate was about 20 years ago, I thought it tasted poor so never wanted another. It's just doesn't strike me as being proper food.
Whilst I eat meat, we don't have it that often and i'm the type of person that will eat it if it's there, but i'm not bothered if it doesn't turn up on my plate. Even when it is there it's usually the last thing I eat. That said, I would like to think that we put a little extra effort and money in to try and source meat that has been raised in good conditions and if possible, slaughtered in a 'humane' way (although the UK's humane description of slaughtering seems to have been somewhat blurred as this thread goes on).
Cheers
Why would a universe and planet creating 'God' even create a pig on a small planet whose inhabitants are then forbidden to eat by the said 'creator'?
Because, by all accounts, he is a bit of a **** and likes messing with people's heads.
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They dropped the Bacon Burger to comply and I'll bet that the Bacon Burger was the tastiest offering they had. This is discriminatory to previous customers who bought the Bacon Burger.
Well you go ahead eating your own **** rather than eating one of the tastiest meats there is. Mmmmmm, bacon. I had myself a BLT for lunch today, lovely.
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I didn't say it should, thats why i quoted the part of your post that was wrong
But there are many aspects of the rules and regulations in this country which aren't completely neutral, and there are many laws which are in place because of/for religious reasons.
The law of the land is supposed to reflect the populous it governs, so arguably it reflects it
If you don't like it you should have your mp lobby to have it changed, if enough people share your view then the law is ammended, i suspect it was put there in the first place to encourage immigration when there were skills shortages here
God put humans on the planet, you don't eat themWhy would a universe and planet creating 'God' even create a pig on a small planet whose inhabitants are then forbidden to eat by the said 'creator'?
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God put humans on the planet, you don't eat them
Mmmmm....Long Pig....
Can't say I could ever taste a difference between a halal and normal meats. I suppose if I was particularly bothered about this then my only concern would be that I'm paying extra for it but then that's probably marginal on the grand scale of things.
Your having a laugh right, coz this statement is patently wrong
It is very much correct. I think it is you that needs to do more research.
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This, I personally find halal meat offensive and cruel, one of the few religious atrocities that go on day after day on our door step in the western world (yes i know bad and worse stuff happens elsewhere), its just wrong and I struggle to see how its not banned under the treatment of animals act.
Looks like you're gonna have to go veggie now, unless you're a hypocrite that is...
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as far as im aware and have seen numerous times, halal meat is where the prayer is said and the animals throat slit without any form of stunning or measure taken to reduce the suffering, legal requirement in the UK is the animal is suitably stunned to the point of its either instantly unconscious or so out of it, it hardly knows whats happening, much more humane.The other main issue is being even more cruel to the animal is apparently ok based on nothing but bull ****, I really have issue with idiotic cruel religious practice continuing despite the FACT its not going to make any difference to the meat, dont get me wrong pray all day long if you want..its not harming anyone (aside from brain washing but thats another issue), but being deliberately cruel and knowingly so is out of order.
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