Poll: Hands up those who like the "Modern UI"?

[DanF]

Given the consensus by most people that "touch" isn't really a good thing on a Desktop, then will someone please explain why they think W8 is the best thing since sliced bread?

I get the phone/tablet argument, not an issue.

Because it works perfectly fine with a keyboard and mouse as well? but you'd have known this if you'd have given it a fair trail and learnt how it works. It seems though that you have made up your mind to hate it at the earliest possibility and then come on to public forums to repeatedly state these views, what gives?

Why should we spend any time trying to convert you when you can simply re-install it in a VM and just try it yourself again? what open minded tech geek wouldn't do this?

Oh there's a whole bunch of us that also have mac products such as MBP's so know exactly how OS X works, if you think there's something about it that is much better please say as they both seem to be fairly comparable as decent modern OS's.

 

[gareth170]

So make the argument for W8 then, convince me!

u know all win8 features and that. if u don't like it that fine. nobody here is saying u must upgrade. but it doesn't give u the right to continue trying to find reasons to bash windows 8 and by searching the web to do that, which gave wrong info anyway.

 

[Faustus]

Because it works perfectly fine with a keyboard and mouse as well? but you'd have known this if you'd have given it a fair trail and learnt how it works. It seems though that you have made up your mind to hate it at the earliest possibility and then come on to public forums to repeatedly state these views, what gives?

Why should we spend any time trying to convert you when you can simply re-install it in a VM and just try it yourself again? what open minded tech geek wouldn't do this?

Oh there's a whole bunch of us that also have mac products such as MBP's so know exactly how OS X works, if you think there's something about it that is much better please say as they both seem to be fairly comparable as decent modern OS's.

Well then you will know if you have a Mac that PD8 hasn't exactly been a roaring success with Windows 8 upgrade to date. I did not want to reinstall again on the almost new HP Lappy as the last time I did so it trashed the install when doing the Windows update. Fortunately at least Acronis make getting back to 7 easy.

Apple haven't gone nowhere near as far as MS with ML and iOS integration which to my mind is a good thing. I'm still waiting for someone to explain the benefits of the overlay UI in 8 but I doubt anyone can as I don't think there are any.

As for TM - well if you have a Mac then you will know just how blindingly easy TM is to work with. Why even our dog can do a reinstall of earlier versions of files apps with TM. Windows backups certainly in 7 do work but the process isn't as well executed as TM.

 

[gareth170]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the benefits of the overlay UI in 8 but I doubt anyone can as I don't think there are any.

i'm disabled and I can only use my head to control my pc with the mouse. metro makes things much better and easier due to the big tiles. also it's a nice way to organize the programs you've installed

 

[Faustus]

u know all win8 features and that. if u don't like it that fine. nobody here is saying u must upgrade. but it doesn't give u the right to continue trying to find reasons to bash windows 8 and by searching the web to do that, which gave wrong info anyway.

i'm disabled and I can only use my head to control my pc with the mouse. metro makes things much better and easier due to the big tiles.

I like Windows - but I think this version smacks of desperation. MS has seen market share in all sectors decimated over the last few years, whatever they have tried doesn't appear to have worked. I think the main reasons for this is they have sat on their laurels thinking they were invincible. Now they are desperately chasing the pack which is never a good place to be. This really is the last throw of the dice for MS if they don't want to be seen as a bit player and become insignificant. I don't see that trying to run two separates OS's as one is the best way forward. HP are one of Microsofts main partners yet they haven't even got 8 playing nicely with their almost new hardware and reading posts online brand new hardware - not the most auspicious of starts.

 

[DanF]

Ok so you have one small point on TM working a bit nicer than windows backup which hardly swings the tides on what constitutes as a good modern OS. So many people use things like dropbox to sync app data anyway the importance of backups is getting to be a moot point.

So the ios style launch pad on OS X, actually I love this feature as it keeps my desktop and dock menu nice and clean and I can simply scruntch my hand on the mbp trackpad to have it fade in and show me all my apps. It's amazing. Windows 8 just does this better though as they are live tiles and this screen has more customization options. This is where MS really have outdone Apple. The IOS homescreen (yes I have ipad & iphone as well) is so old and boring. How many people hack their IOS devices to play around with their homescreen how they like?

Other than this what does OS X offer? trying to full screen apps is still laughable.

 

[gareth170]

whats the point? he will always think his right.

also all this won't change anything.

people still buying win8 anyway also Windows 8 Outselling Windows 7 so MS must be doing some good with this OS

 

[theheyes]

I've read your other posts on the Surface tab hence I'm never going to convince someone like you as to why TM or OS X might be the better option. I would suggest you try both systems and feel the scales fall from your eyes.

I've had more Macs than PCs over the last 10 years. I know perfectly well how Time Machine works. I was actually interested in your analysis, but never mind.

 

[Faustus]

Ok so you have one small point on TM working a bit nicer than windows backup which hardly swings the tides on what constitutes as a good modern OS. So many people use things like dropbox to sync app data anyway the importance of backups is getting to be a moot point.

So the ios style launch pad on OS X, actually I love this feature as it keeps my desktop and dock menu nice and clean and I can simply scruntch my hand on the mbp trackpad to have it fade in and show me all my apps. It's amazing. Windows 8 just does this better though as they are live tiles and this screen has more customization options. This is where MS really have outdone Apple. The IOS homescreen (yes I have ipad & iphone as well) is so old and boring. How many people hack their IOS devices to play around with their homescreen how they like?

Other than this what does OS X offer? trying to full screen apps is still laughable.

Launch pad - tried it then removed it from the Dock, waste of Dock space IMO. Live tiles, zero interest for many I suspect. Because something is old doesn't mean it doesn't work well or should be consigned to the dustbin. Boring you say, what are you expecting, dancing girls?

If you don't know what OS X can offer then that is indeed worrying.

 

[Faustus]

I've had more Macs than PCs over the last 10 years. I know perfectly well how Time Machine works. I was actually interested in your analysis, but never mind.

I think the fact my dog can use it speaks volumes don't you? As said before TM IMO is better executed, what else is left to say?

 

[theheyes]

I think the fact my dog can use's it speaks volumes don't you? As said before TM IMO is better executed, what else is left to say?

You're right. There is nothing left to say after this.

 

[Faustus]

whats the point? he will always think his right.

also all this won't change anything.

people still buying win8 anyway also Windows 8 Outselling Windows 7 so MS must be doing some good with this OS

Every one thinks they're right surely otherwise you wouldn't have opposing points of view. What a strange thing to say.

 

[theheyes]

i'm disabled and I can only use my head to control my pc with the mouse. metro makes things much better and easier due to the big tiles. also it's a nice way to organize the programs you've installed

So do you control the cursor with your head? Do you have any keys or buttons mapped to switches? I suppose it would be useful if there was the option to scan the tiles as well, would it not?

 

[Faustus]

You're right. There is nothing left to say after this.

So you concur that TM does do it better then - result.

 

[Blue160]

I don't like it much

I've installed 8 on my media PC and my netbook and been playing with Metro for a week or so.

Windows 8 makes my netbook better because it runs much faster than Windows 7 Starter did making the whole thing more pleasant. I've installed a mod to get rid of Metro and put back the start button though, as I found the touch screen based gestures to navigate around a pain in the bum on a trackpad without multi touch.

It makes much more sense on my media PC as the tiles are much easier to use than the desktop when using it from the sofa. My big gripe is the tiles are way too small to see easily from a distance, and there's no way to change that in settings. I know there's a registry hack to get around this, but I shouldn't have to do that.

I'm sticking with 7 on my main PC for a while as I don't see any benefit from putting 8 on it yet. I remember my first experience with 7 being one of pleasant surprise at how quick and easy to use it was. With 8 it was more why on earth have they done that?

Also why the flaming for people who don't like Metro or 8 in general? Metro is definitely a bit of an aquired taste, and works better on some devices, and for some functions than others. Some are going to love it, some aren't, what's the problem with that

For what it's worth I reckon Windows 9 will be superb when they've had chance to look at what works and what doesn't in 8

 

[Faustus]

I'm sticking with 7 on my main PC for a while as I don't see any benefit from putting 8 on it yet. I remember my first experience with 7 being one of pleasant surprise at how quick and easy to use it was. With 8 it was more why on earth have they done that?

Also why the flaming for people who don't like Metro or 8 in general? Metro is definitely a bit of an aquired taste, and works better on some devices, and for some functions than others. Some are going to love it, some aren't, what's the problem with that

+1 however if you disagree with the hive you will get harangued, as you have seen with my experience.

 

[gareth170]

So do you control the cursor with your head?

yes, I use the mouse with my chin to control the cursor and to type with a on screen keyboard.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18236540&

Do you have any keys or buttons mapped to switches?

yes I've been trying some switchs which is mapped to keys but I mostly use them for gaming

I suppose it would be useful if there was the option to scan the tiles as well, would it not?

that would be good feature to have

 

[DanF]

If you don't know what OS X can offer then that is indeed worrying.

If you don't know what windows 8 has to offer then that is indeed worrying.

 

[Lucifurr]

I think the fact my dog can use it speaks volumes don't you? As said before TM IMO is better executed, what else is left to say?

Can you post a vid of your dog using TM?

 

[gareth170]

Every one thinks they're right surely otherwise you wouldn't have opposing points of view. What a strange thing to say.

no body is saying who's right or wrong.

if you don't like win8 and prefer win7 that's fine. no point keep bagging on about it and try to find silly little reasons to bash windows 8 by searching the web to do that,. it won't change anything.

just get on with life..