You forgot Ashley Young, Welbeck and Rooney... all divers. Rooney not so much now.
Hansen: Suarez goes down too easily
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You forgot Ashley Young, Welbeck and Rooney... all divers. Rooney not so much now.
It's a contact sport. Whether he's doing it to avoid being injured or not his diving could cost the game for the opposing team if he gets a penalty for it.
lol @ the liverpool fans living up to what everyone thinks about them and their 'woe is me' attitude.
''why isn't bale getting picked up on this'' they bleat. he does, he has dived but if you saw how many times he is hacked down in a match, you may understand just a little to why he would try and dive to avoid contact. if he keeps getting hammered like he does, i fear he wont be playing in his late 20's.
''why isn't bale getting picked up on this'' they bleat. he does, he has dived but if you saw how many times he is hacked down in a match, you may understand just a little to why he would try and dive to avoid contact. if he keeps getting hammered like he does, i fear he wont be playing in his late 20's.
lol @ cm living up to what everybody thinks of him.
The person that brought up Bale was an Arsenal fan and of the 3 others that have then commented on Bale one was a Liverpool fan, one was a Spurs fan and one was another Arsenal fan.
edit: it's actually getting quite boring how the same few people keep coming out with the same cheap shot every time there's a debate involving Liverpool. Boring but not surprising that it's coming from the likes of cm, grimm and dm.
The person that brought up Bale was an Arsenal fan and of the 3 others that have then commented on Bale one was a Liverpool fan, one was a Spurs fan and one was another Arsenal fan.
edit: it's actually getting quite boring how the same few people keep coming out with the same cheap shot every time there's a debate involving Liverpool. Boring but not surprising that it's coming from the likes of cm, grimm and dm.
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Im a liverpool fan, and I hope Rodgers speaks to suarez about cutting out the dives. Rodgers had a point that Suarez isnt getting many decisions, but that dive undermined him.
But suarez does get clattered all over the pitch and gets very few decisions, look at the stamp on his chest at the weekend. The referee saw it and gave nothing. If anything its giving defenders encouragement to clatter him.
I remember last season though, Ashley young dived in about 3 games in a row, the result: 3 penalties.
But suarez does get clattered all over the pitch and gets very few decisions, look at the stamp on his chest at the weekend. The referee saw it and gave nothing. If anything its giving defenders encouragement to clatter him.
I remember last season though, Ashley young dived in about 3 games in a row, the result: 3 penalties.
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DM: Di Maria, by far and away the worst diver in Spain and just generally the biggest **** in football at the moment, I absolutely loathe the guy.
Gareth Bale is a bit of a diver, but he's been doing it for a couple of seasons now and he'll likely get less stick being a British player, same goes for Ashley Young (and Welbeck lately too).
I think another issue that needs to be addressed as well as diving is the preferential treatment British players get. Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, A. Cole etc have always seemed to get away with more.
Gareth Bale is a bit of a diver, but he's been doing it for a couple of seasons now and he'll likely get less stick being a British player, same goes for Ashley Young (and Welbeck lately too).
I think another issue that needs to be addressed as well as diving is the preferential treatment British players get. Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, A. Cole etc have always seemed to get away with more.
every time a player gets caught diving he should be hit with a bat in such a fashion that would cause the pain and fall of which he simulated
in fact the same rule should go for those who get a little scrape then roll around like theyve got a broken leg
ruins the sport
in fact the same rule should go for those who get a little scrape then roll around like theyve got a broken leg
ruins the sport
Absolutely. The recent racism cases are a prime example of this. Disgraceful favouritism shown by the FA.
What is surprising here is we so far haven't gotten a penalty or won a game because of Suarez's so called dives but everybody is on him. I will not join his hate group because its a bit retarded. I can't remember a game we have won with a Suarez's dive meaning he has not cheated any game for us but he has genuinely won many for us.
But on the contrary take an example of Young 70% of his dives end up with a penalty to win a game making him and his team more of cheats. Look at Man U nearly every game they have played this season has ended with controversial moments or call them 50/50 decisions all going for them.
Saying Suarez is making the refs' job hard let the earn their money so far they have been the worst performers in the game and if there were no disagreements between the opposing sides then they would not be required in the first place. And Suarez doesn't need the love of non Liverpool fan that much if you want to hate him feel free to do so but don't waste your time trying to convince us to join you we already have our own list of players we hate.
When will people understand a player's job is to win matches for the Clubs he plays for using every thing with in his means and that is why we have a ref to control the game.
And DM saying Busquets doesn't dive in the penalty box like Suarez is a stupid statement because they operate in different areas of the field may be to help you understand this is Suarez also doesn't dive at the center of the pitch as much as Busquets does.
But on the contrary take an example of Young 70% of his dives end up with a penalty to win a game making him and his team more of cheats. Look at Man U nearly every game they have played this season has ended with controversial moments or call them 50/50 decisions all going for them.
Saying Suarez is making the refs' job hard let the earn their money so far they have been the worst performers in the game and if there were no disagreements between the opposing sides then they would not be required in the first place. And Suarez doesn't need the love of non Liverpool fan that much if you want to hate him feel free to do so but don't waste your time trying to convince us to join you we already have our own list of players we hate.
When will people understand a player's job is to win matches for the Clubs he plays for using every thing with in his means and that is why we have a ref to control the game.
And DM saying Busquets doesn't dive in the penalty box like Suarez is a stupid statement because they operate in different areas of the field may be to help you understand this is Suarez also doesn't dive at the center of the pitch as much as Busquets does.
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I absolutely hate Di Maria, and he's certainly a diver, and a selfish twit and he rarely turns up in the big games. However, I don't see Suarez go a single game without diving, mouthing off ALL game long at every single decision(even the ones that go his or his teams way, again I'll point out RVP made a great tackle, it was given as a foul, they GOT the foul, Suarez ran from inside the box to the half way line to scream at the ref, and the freekick that went up the field went into the box while Suarez was still running forward).
As much as I dislike Di Maria, there are plenty of games he doesn't do much in(as often for lack of chances of being completely uninvolved in a game), he didn't dive in the classico from what I recall, he hasn't dived or done anything significant I can remember in the past 3-4 Real games... I can't say the same for Suarez.
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What you appear to be saying here is, Suarez, dive less and you might get a few penalties, Young may have won penalties... he still only dived 4-5 times the entire last season, Suarez has done that in the past 2-3 games.
Firstly, I don't think anyone said he is making the ref's job harder he's merely changing how the ref thinks. A ref's job is JUDGEMENT calls, all game long, everything is a judgement, very few decisions are exact, by cheating all game long, every game that judgement is effected. If Henry got hacked down in the box, the ref's thinking is, 95% likely a penalty, 5% likely a dive, looked a penalty, gives a penalty. For Suarez, 30% likely a penalty, 70% likely a dive, he's already dived 3 times in this game.. doesn't give the penalty.
Second, he cheats so much he isn't winning genuine penalties because everyone thinks he's cheating. So by your very definition he isn't doing his job. If he cheated less he'd be winning more penalties and Liverpool would have won more games... so he isn't doing what he should.
It's not stupid we were talking about why some players are treated differently to others, simple fact, trying to win a penalty which often comes with red cards is vastly more game changing than winning a freekick 50 yards from goal. The outcome is very different, a decision to dive in the penalty is seeking to cheat "bigger" than seeking to cheat in the centre circle. Anyway, Busquets gets in the box more than you think and importantly he isn't diving half as much today as he was 2 years ago.
Wrong. If the English game alloys for anything as long as they're trying to win how can we be critical of elsewhere?
The spirit of the game is all important.
Didn't Henry blatantly handle the ball in a game of major importance just like Luis? The only difference is he doesn't/didn't have to put up with a media/certain senior managers hatchet job.
Anytime a player denies a goal scoring opportunity that is 'cheating' isn't it? Anytime a player breaks the rules that is cheating isn’t? It happens every single game with every single club and tbh the whole 'whose a bigger cheat' thing is quite frankly childish.
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