Harry and Meghan to resign

dowie said:
Based on what?
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The fact her skin colour is mentioned or hinted/implied in negative stories about her in the press, let alone the open warfare on twitter that don't even attempt to disguise it.

I'll admit I had hope, naive I'll admit, that Harry appearing to be the least royal royal, might drag this ridiculous outdated institution into the 21st century. The rest are so detached from normal people, living in this outdated notion of a class system where the aristocracy is "better" than you or I. That obviously was never going to be allowed to happen. I'm amazed people seem happy to have not just this family but all the hangers on of our hereditary aristocracy placed above them because they were born into a certain blood line.

That is a rant more on the monarchy in general rather than the subject at hand.
 
garnett said:
Are you suffering from some sort of memory loss? There's a thread's worth of evidence where you've sought to argue with anyone who's suggested the abuse isn't acceptable.
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So there's a whole thread's worth of evidence but you can't actually point to any... strong argument there.

Calling out conspiracy nonsense = defending abuse in your mind?
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
The fact her skin colour is mentioned or hinted/implied in negative stories about her in the press, let alone the open warfare on twitter that don't even attempt to disguise it.

I'll admit I had hope, naive I'll admit, that Harry appearing to be the least royal royal, might drag this ridiculous outdated institution into the 21st century. The rest are so detached from normal people, living in this outdated notion of a class system where the aristocracy is "better" than you or I. That obviously was never going to be allowed to happen. I'm amazed people seem happy to have not just this family but all the hangers on of our hereditary aristocracy placed above them because they were born into a certain blood line.

That is a rant more on the monarchy in general rather than the subject at hand.
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I think this past week has really divided people. You have the ones that love the royal family and the others that are not fans of them. I am in the camp of not caring about them. I certainly wouldn't inconvenience myself to save one of them let alone put my life on the line for them. I did actually feel a bit sad as the day went on regarding the passing but that was more because I have empathy and can remember how I felt when I lost my Grandfather but the following day I remembered the reason why Andrew isn't living in Club Fed.

I had always hoped that with the death of the Queen it would also be the death of the monarchy but it feels like it's solidified it even more. You can't say anything even remote negative about them as people are breaking their necks to defend them.
 
Chris Wilson said:
What country in the developed or undeveloped world has no "class system"? Or is your goal to change human nature itself?
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A class system due to bloodlines is defendable how? I've no issue with people getting ahead through talent, success, hard work. My issue is with being placed above others due to being born into a bloodline.
 
Junglist said:
I think this past week has really divided people. You have the ones that love the royal family and the others that are not fans of them. I am in the camp of not caring about them. I certainly wouldn't inconvenience myself to save one of them let alone put my life on the line for them. I did actually feel a bit sad as the day went on regarding the passing but that was more because I have empathy and can remember how I felt when I lost my Grandfather but the following day I remembered the reason why Andrew isn't living in Club Fed.

I had always hoped that with the death of the Queen it would also be the death of the monarchy but it feels like it's solidified it even more. You can't say anything even remote negative about them as people are breaking their necks to defend them.
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Oh course its sad when any family member dies. Although I'm no monarchist I do respect the job she did, she served the country for almost her whole adult life. Like yourself I thought maybe talk of moving away from this might come more to the fore but any such talk is being shouted down. I've not lost hope though, the Queen was one of a kind, Charles will likely rule for no most than 20 years so the idea of a person being there for many people's life times will never come again. Lets see where the mood is in a couple of years time. Charles is known for his temper as has been seen in the last few days. I doubt he's going to be a fraction as popular as the Queen was.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
A class system due to bloodlines is defendable how? I've no issue with people getting ahead through talent, success, hard work. My issue is with being placed above others due to being born into a bloodline.
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The cream of horses, cattle, dogs, cats, even the humble budgie and pigeon are based on bloodlines and breeding. The progeny of the supreme members of their type did no work to achieve their own greatness, it is purely down to eugenics ;) As an ardent believer in eugenics I am embracing of breeding to good bloodlines.
 
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shifty_uk said:
Nonsense, the gutter rags decide who the masses like.
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Anyone who promotes james o'brian as any kind of worthy commentator or spokesperson has lost the argument in my book. He's a dreadful human being who has delusions of grandeur as a righteous working-class hero of the masses who is right on the pulse on every topic.

When in reality he's just a self-righteous arrogant ***** and ignorant woke (insert female part that begins with a C here) that is unable to listen to any alternative views and massage his ego by picking out the stupidest callers he can to make himself feel superior. He's the very definition of a champagne socialist who lives in his little echo chamber
 
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robgmun said:
Anyone who promotes james o'brian as any kind of worthy commentator or spokesperson has lost the argument in my book. He's a dreadful human being who has delusions of grandeur as a righteous working-class hero of the masses who is right on the pulse on every topic.

When in reality he's just a self-righteous arrogant ***** and ignorant woke (insert female part that begins with a C here) that is unable to listen to any alternative views and massage his ego by picking out the stupidest callers he can to make himself feel superior. He's the very definition of a champagne socialist who lives in his little echo chamber
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Says the person that said this about Andrew Tate.

robgmun said:
I've actually been seeing him for a while, and while there are a few things i certainly don't agree with, i think he makes a lot of very important points that young men and boys need to hear. He says it in many different ways but it basically boils down to a couple of things:

1) Don't put the pussy on a pedestal, i.e don't be a simp
2) Value women who value themselves and don't sleep around and expose themselves on the internet. Hold women to a higher standard basically
3) And work on improving yourself.

And i really can't see anything wrong with that at all, yes he is brash and loud, but actually, hear what he's saying. He's just the latest boogyman for the wet lefty liberals to get triggered by and has to be shut down quickly because it's threatening their agenda to emasculate men. Same thing as what happened to Jordan Peterson, Milo Yiannopoulos and Ben Shapiro (although they still haven't managed to declaw him yet)

Andrew Tate through will be difficult to get canceled as he's self-sufficient now and doesn't need to rely on media exposure to make money. And that worries them
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Tony Edwards said:
Says the person that said this about Andrew Tate.
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Aannnd........?

I bet good money you've only hated Andrew Tate for a few months and based on second-hand information. I've hated James O'Brian for donkey's years through actually listening to him talk at length, you're as shallow as one of James O'Brian droning 30min dialogues he does on his shows because he doesn't have enough callers to fill the time on his broadcasts
 
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Chris Wilson said:
The cream of horses, cattle, dogs, cats, even the humble budgie and pigeon are based on bloodlines and breeding. The progeny of the supreme members of their type did no work to achieve their own greatness, it is purely down to eugenics ;) As an ardent believer in eugenics I am embracing of breeding to good bloodlines.
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I really do hope you are joking with that. Though I fear you aren't.
 
robgmun said:
Don't encourage him, it's not the win he thinks it is.
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Isn't it? You claim James O'Brian is many things in that rant, though he is actually reading someone else's words, someone's words that actually make a lot of sense in regards ot this subject.

Your own words are then pointed out on someone who makes James O'Brian look politically neutral and totally harmless. And just look at your language when talking about Andrew Tate and women, I wouldn't want you anywhere near any female I know.

I did laugh when I got to the paragraph about men being emasculated. I mean Ben Shapiro :cry: to use your own language, that guy doesn't need de clawing, he's a perfect example of a wet blanket, if he's your male masculine role model that is hilarious! That guy wouldn't know what a female orgasm was if it slapped him in the face. My god if that is who young men are looking to then there really is a problem. And as for Milo Yiannopoulos, is that the dude who advocated for 13 year old boys being ****** by older men as their "coming of age moment". You sure have some odd ideas of male role models.
 
Christ what a lot of waffle to say nothing of value. I'll leave you camp out in this thread as you obviously have nowhere else to go and leave you to stew in whatever mire you find yourself inn
 
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