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Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

x16 x8 x4 is not that bad, last I heard running SLI at x8 is hardly noticable over x16

If you're benching, it makes a difference. In fact, if you're spending the sort of money this set up demands, it will make a difference. No one is going to put two Titan blacks, or two 780TIs (because that's the performance level we're talking here) on X16 X8.

So basically that particular hex core is only good for one GPU (that's why they have done it) but as we already know, when it comes to pretty much everything a 4790k is enough to let one of those sort of GPUs stretch its legs.

Making the 5820k, like locked SBE IBE Haswell CPUs pointless, and, rail roading the customer into buying the £500 CPU.

I used to work as a manager in a call centre. As such we used to have the so called "Pro sellers" come in to train our staff. They would basically draw this map on a board, and, show you that basically the cheaper products were only there as a get out of jail if your sales tactics failed. But, this map they drew would basically be the rep railroading the caller into buying the most expensive product.

And it works too. Who is going to pay the premium for a board and ram, then settle for a derped CPU? "Meh, whilst I'm at it I may as well buy the more expensive CPU....."

Human nature. And the sharks? they know it.
 
If you're benching, it makes a difference. In fact, if you're spending the sort of money this set up demands, it will make a difference. No one is going to put two Titan blacks, or two 780TIs (because that's the performance level we're talking here) on X16 X8.

So basically that particular hex core is only good for one GPU (that's why they have done it) but as we already know, when it comes to pretty much everything a 4790k is enough to let one of those sort of GPUs stretch its legs.

Making the 5820k, like locked SBE IBE Haswell CPUs pointless, and, rail roading the customer into buying the £500 CPU.

I used to work as a manager in a call centre. As such we used to have the so called "Pro sellers" come in to train our staff. They would basically draw this map on a board, and, show you that basically the cheaper products were only there as a get out of jail if your sales tactics failed. But, this map they drew would basically be the rep railroading the caller into buying the most expensive product.

And it works too. Who is going to pay the premium for a board and ram, then settle for a derped CPU? "Meh, whilst I'm at it I may as well buy the more expensive CPU....."

Human nature. And the sharks? they know it.

so i did basically the right thing getting the 4770K did i ? because i'm beginning to regret not sticking with my i5 2500, mind you i still have it, but it wont fit my new Mobo will it.

i'm beginning to wish that i got that top end i7
 
I'm still using an i7 920, it pretty much handles most things for me but its long overdue a refresh so I think I'll go for the cheapest option which will be the 5820k. I'm hoping the bells and whistles from Z97 is moved to the X99 so that's my main reason for upgrading, as I want usb3, msata etc

Yeah 5820K is most appealing to me as well, good point about the mobo. Hopefully X99 will feature all the latest stuff.

Be a nice upgrade for you from i7 920. Thinking about selling off my whole PC and starting a new X99 build from scratch.
 
Yeah 5820K is most appealing to me as well, good point about the mobo. Hopefully X99 will feature all the latest stuff.

Be a nice upgrade for you from i7 920. Thinking about selling off my whole PC and starting a new X99 build from scratch.

I am thinking of doing the same :)
 
Baby on the way?

My nightmare that would be!



People always rattle on about games. I would absolutely not be interested in this if I was building just a gaming pc
In fact I think it's quite far away from what you want still for gaming
Surely a beefy turboing i5 is the best option? Or a i7 with HT if you play games that support it

More I look at this the more I may not bother
It will all depend on if the software I use at work can
A= be used on more than one pc (usage rights)
B= if that software can utilize more than 4+4 cores.. If not a high turbo chip is better

If I can't meet that criteria I need to see if photoshop etc can go beyond 4+4
And also if transcoding software can

I am willing to bet a lot of people looking at this (not all) would actually be better suited to a 4790k or i5
To me.. It makes no sense for gamers
 
My nightmare that would be!



People always rattle on about games. I would absolutely not be interested in this if I was building just a gaming pc
In fact I think it's quite far away from what you want still for gaming
Surely a beefy turboing i5 is the best option? Or a i7 with HT if you play games that support it

More I look at this the more I may not bother
It will all depend on if the software I use at work can
A= be used on more than one pc (usage rights)
B= if that software can utilize more than 4+4 cores.. If not a high turbo chip is better

If I can't meet that criteria I need to see if photoshop etc can go beyond 4+4
And also if transcoding software can

I am willing to bet a lot of people looking at this (not all) would actually be better suited to a 4790k or i5
To me.. It makes no sense for gamers

Same here, for gaming it seems nearly all games won't really benefit from these chips much.. makes me wonder if it's worth even spending out for a big upgrade or just get a decent GPU instead, since a single high end gpu will handle 1080p fine there's no need to go dual card and thus little/no bottleneck.

6 core does sound nice though, the main thing with the newer chips is that they can clock much higher on average like 4.5ghz.. other than that there's no large increase in performance between newer and older cpu's in my opinion.
 
Thinking about it one practical use for me would be using 5+5HT of tbh r cores for my main task (or 4+4 if the software won't go to 5) and having the remaining 1+1HT for general use

At the moment I have to use 3+3HT for really hard stuff and 1+1HT for other
If I do not set this the machine is basically unusable.
 
i'll buy the SSD off you, but i want a good price considering it's 2nd hand ;)

Ha, decided to split the parts as main value was with them, and keep the base of PC. Check MM.

Baby on the way?

Worse than that lol :eek:

People always rattle on about games. I would absolutely not be interested in this if I was building just a gaming pc
In fact I think it's quite far away from what you want still for gaming
Surely a beefy turboing i5 is the best option? Or a i7 with HT if you play games that support it

More I look at this the more I may not bother
It will all depend on if the software I use at work can
A= be used on more than one pc (usage rights)
B= if that software can utilize more than 4+4 cores.. If not a high turbo chip is better

If I can't meet that criteria I need to see if photoshop etc can go beyond 4+4
And also if transcoding software can

I am willing to bet a lot of people looking at this (not all) would actually be better suited to a 4790k or i5
To me.. It makes no sense for gamers

Yeah agree with this, for just gaming, the mainstream stuff is fine. This has appeal for workstation use and benchmarking, to stand any chance in keeping up in those areas X99 is where it will be at. Sadly it won't be where I am at this year :p
 
Samsung pushes ahead with 20nm DDR3 RAM, signaling uncertainty about DDR4

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...0nm-ddr3-ram-signaling-uncertainty-about-ddr4

Any new DDR takes years to catch on any way. DDR3 will be stupid cheap for a while, then if DDR4 does actually take hold it'll get more expensive (due to less of it being made/sold).

TBH? never seen a DDR fail yet (unlike Rambus) but hey, there's always a first time.

If it's going to remain an X99 exclusive then you can bet your house, it won't catch on. Look at triple/quad channel memory. Still can't get that outside of an X chipset, didn't set the world on fire.

The issue is maturity. When DDR2 was mature it was every bit as good as early DDR3, if not better. DDR4 will have a lot to prove.
 
Any new DDR takes years to catch on any way. DDR3 will be stupid cheap for a while, then if DDR4 does actually take hold it'll get more expensive (due to less of it being made/sold).

TBH? never seen a DDR fail yet (unlike Rambus) but hey, there's always a first time.

If it's going to remain an X99 exclusive then you can bet your house, it won't catch on. Look at triple/quad channel memory. Still can't get that outside of an X chipset, didn't set the world on fire.

The issue is maturity. When DDR2 was mature it was every bit as good as early DDR3, if not better. DDR4 will have a lot to prove.

yea but the trouble is, DDR 4 will mature ok, but by then these new Haswell CPUs due out soon will be out of date, BECAUSE the next generation/architecture of Intel CPUs are due for release next year :eek::eek:

i read all about it yesterday.....these 5960Xs whatever; are only a stop gap until next year :eek: but i find it very confusing, so you'll need to look at that link i posted up.:cool:

anyone wanting a major upgrade right now is therefore making a massive mistake, because in addition, i dont think you'll get DDR4 as it is planed right now, the market is evolving into something else....maybe 14nm, it's a bit like wanting to buy a R290X right now, not realising that it'll be out of date in 6 months time..................it's just something that you wouldn't do would you !!!
 
Dunno why ddr4 is needed

Those who know will know
But where is the limit in ddr3? What practical applications does this happen in?

Oh.. Looks like my software would benefit.. Whoops
 
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