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***Haswell -E Owners Thread***

Swiftech 240x hasn't been dispatched so I tool the Seidon 240m out of my Haswell system for the time being.

5930k
Asus X99-S
16GB GeIL 3000Mhz DDR4
295x2
290x (Trifire)

Used the Asus AI Suite 5 way optimisation software to test the overclocking and it's set it at 4.4Ghz.

I reckon 4.5Ghz will be easy once I get the better AIO cooler.
 
With my Asus Rampage I can set my 5930 manually to 4.7GHz, (after the optimisation has set it to 4.4), without issue but it won't boot if I set that as default settings.

The max the optimisation seems to give you is 4.4, (4.0. 4.2 and 4.4 are the only options shown)

Not really tried to tweak my boot voltages etc because if I set the 4.7GHz as a profile I can load it in a couple of seconds.
 
Just got my i7 5820k , not done any testing yet. Just got built and formatted.

What what in terms of a healthy chip

4.4ghz @ 1.200v good
4.4ghz @ 1.300v bad
For example.

How differently do these things overclock to haswell on z97
These chips particularly sensitive to anything ?

Memory tuning important this time around ? Usually leave ram stock .
Anything you could give me a heads up on guys would be lovely.

Not ran into any major issues bar the board having a funny about which channels/banks I used. Board takes a while to post although fastboot is on etc . Same when off.
 
My X99-s seems to post a fair bit slower than my Asus Maximus VI Impact (Z87)

Maybe a quirk of the X99 system?

There was a photographic quick-start insert in my motherboard box, I thought it was pretty clear about which RAM slots to use for quad channel.
 
VincentHanna said:
My X99-s seems to post a fair bit slower than my Asus Maximus VI Impact (Z87)

Maybe a quirk of the X99 system?

There was a photographic quick-start insert in my motherboard box, I thought it was pretty clear about which RAM slots to use for quad channel.
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Memory training can take up a bit more time than normal, it's an area that will develop with BIOS revisions. Once you are sure the memory is stable you can disable memory training and enable fast boot options.
 
Had a play this evening on my 5820k . Sorting 24/7 and bench profiles out .

Currently @ 4.4Ghz - 1.338v

Anything more on the multi gets the chip eating voltage ... Tested up to 1.370 and can't get it stable at 4.5. Don't really want to push 1.4v threw it to get there but may have to.

Unsure on how to proceed . May hit the BClk to tomorrow and mess about with the strap .

Tweaking the ram yields unspectacular results . Using teamgroups 2400 16gb stuff @ 16 16 16 37 can tighten to CL 15 15 15 35 CR T1 @ 2400 or overclock to 2666mhz @ 1.25v , the latter seems to do nothing but worsten results. @ 1.35v I can push to CL 14 14 14 34 T1 ...
What are people doing with there Nb/cache frequencys?
 
MasterOC said:
Had a play this evening on my 5820k . Sorting 24/7 and bench profiles out .

Currently @ 4.4Ghz - 1.338v

Anything more on the multi gets the chip eating voltage ... Tested up to 1.370 and can't get it stable at 4.5. Don't really want to push 1.4v threw it to get there but may have to.

Unsure on how to proceed . May hit the BClk to tomorrow and mess about with the strap .

Tweaking the ram yields unspectacular results . Using teamgroups 2400 16gb stuff @ 16 16 16 37 can tighten to CL 15 15 15 35 CR T1 @ 2400 or overclock to 2666mhz @ 1.25v , the latter seems to do nothing but worsten results. @ 1.35v I can push to CL 14 14 14 34 T1 ...
What are people doing with there Nb/cache frequencys?
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You should be able to match the cache to the cpu freq, my 5930 tops and out at a cpu multi of 45 @ 1.290 volts and a cache at 45 no problem and ram performance on this platform is poor, you do not get much out of it when overclocking.
 
shamus21 said:
You should be able to match the cache to the cpu freq, my 5930 tops and out at a cpu multi of 45 @ 1.290 volts and a cache at 45 no problem and ram performance on this platform is poor, you do not get much out of it when overclocking.
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Is your cache @1.290v ?

Can't push past 3900mhz on cache even at 1.250v ... No matter what either just befor I get into windows or just after the system just shuts down , no bsod or anything ... It's fine upto 3800mhz with voltage stock
 
MasterOC said:
Is your cache @1.290v ?

Can't push past 3900mhz on cache even at 1.250v ... No matter what either just befor I get into windows or just after the system just shuts down , no bsod or anything ... It's fine upto 3800mhz with voltage stock
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Have you tried raising input slightly? Try on a different strap. Cache on 125 strap can be a tad unpredictable. I'm at 3.85 cache for very much the same reason for 24/7. I don't do anything cache intensive anyway. With manual voltage on 100 strap 4.5 cache is easily achieved.

Don't be put off if you can't raise your cache, cache CAN scale with core frequency but it doesn't always. Without the OC socket anything over 4ghz is impossible anyway without the 'cache mod'. Note also up to 1.45v cache voltage is acceptable on adequate watercooling.
 
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Also you may find manual voltage for cache is far more stable, adaptive voltage is still a big no, Intel need to update a lot of the microcode for this.

You can run this in conjunction with other offset/adaptive voltages.

Here is 4.375 core/uncore with cache in manual voltage.

vcore 1.185 / cache 1.25

http://i.imgur.com/hcNoddX.jpg

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Silent_Scone said:
Have you tried raising input slightly? Try on a different strap. Cache on 125 strap can be a tad unpredictable. I'm at 3.85 cache for very much the same reason for 24/7. I don't do anything cache intensive anyway. With manual voltage on 100 strap 4.5 cache is easily achieved.

Don't be put off if you can't raise your cache, cache CAN scale with core frequency but it doesn't always. Without the OC socket anything over 4ghz is impossible anyway without the 'cache mod'. Note also up to 1.45v cache voltage is acceptable on adequate watercooling.
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Running 100 strap , with standard BClk . Is the OC socket active without fiddling in bios ?i presume it works as a voltage stabiliser at higher volts ? I'll push upto 1.35v on cache when get back on my machine , although the way im working might not be till Christmas, I'm running h100i , temps atm are low 70s @ 4.4core 1.338v 3.9cache , no give left in a Vcore unless I'm willing to push beyond 1.4v to reach 4.5ghz . Tweaked Vcore right down to bare minimum on these clocks aswell ..... Any tricks to push Vcore down while staying stable ? My 4770k was so much easy to clock!
 
ASUS OC socket is their modified socket which steps outside Intel spec, it's nothing you need to switch on, it's just there :)

I would recommend leaving cache in manual, gets far better results, and it's unclear what intel will do with this in future. You will always need more voltage on cache to match core. As above I only need 1.185v for 4.375 core, but need 1.25v for 4.375 cache. When using offset I experience similar shut downs, which is the internal voltage regulator crapping itself because the cache is unstable. It may work for some but not others

If you're running low input voltage, you can try raising this to tip over 1.9v. May help you reduce vcore. I've seen some chips can go the other way, with lower input helping, but yet to see this myself.
 
Definitely got CL13 stable now at 1.5v with seconds and thirds tighter than a ducks bottom. Next step CL12.

I have to up the input a lot with my chip, i must have a voltage regular made of cheese.
 
On your head be it with that voltage :p What's your CR15 score?

Input should be good up to 2v but again, I'd keep it under 1.95v with vdroop if you can. Be wary if you haven't worked on your cache yet as the increased L3 will cause the memory to work harder
 
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Silent_Scone said:
On your head be it with that voltage :p What's your CR15 score?

Input should be good up to 2v but again, I'd keep it under 1.95v with vdroop if you can. Be wary if you haven't worked on your cache yet as the increased L3 will cause the memory to work harder
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Ha, well i think my problem initially when i thought things were stable was i had the input voltage too low. Now I've raised that (more than you'd like) things are running much better. I took out the Intel tuning plan, so if she dies ill take a rol of the Dice and hope i get a better one. My first chip was better for sure, but still not great.

I'll post up my settings and such, but I've got 4.4Ghz stable at around 1.425v, cpu input is 2.000v, cache at 43 and 1.4v. Cache will not go any higher, even tried 1.55v no dice.

My 24/7 is 4.3Ghz on the core though and voltage is around 1.35v. I'm still fiddling with this though and i may be able to bring it down more as it was originally at 1.4v before i started increasing input. I think 1.325v might be possible.

What's the CR15 score?
 
Cache at 43 1.4 is fine, can be difficult to get this stable for 24/7 above 4.4 without throwing really big volts at it.



I'm at 4.375/4.375 daily with 1.185v core and 1.25v cache, 1.92v input.


Cinebench R15 is what I meant. 4.4 core with over 1.4v is a really poor sample though, I'm sure you can get that down.
 
Silent_Scone said:
Cache at 43 1.4 is fine, can be difficult to get this stable for 24/7 above 4.4 without throwing really big volts at it.



I'm at 4.375/4.375 daily with 1.185v core and 1.25v cache, 1.92v input.


Cinebench R15 is what I meant. 4.4 core with over 1.4v is a really poor sample though, I'm sure you can get that down.
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I'll keep trying, but it seems unlikely. 4.4 needs a big jump, really got a stinker.

Here's the cinescore at the above clocks and Tipes here's the timings im currently using. I'd not copy these though, as a lot of them are pretty tight and a copy pasta likely won't work.



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Not a bad score for 4.3 but I would have expected a little higher with 3200. You might find you've dropped off going that low.

You might find better performance by raising either TRRD or TFAW. By having TRRD that low you're creating an additional delay between banks.

This is what TFAW does. This can never be lower than TRRD x4 anyway, but I would maybe try raising it. TWCL at 9 is pretty damn low also, try and see differences with different means with this set to 13 or 14.


No promises just see what works best. I score @ 4.375 1770 with 3000 C15 with Command Rate 2. Sometimes it's best to leave these things alone :p For benching though, C13 3200 is a damn nice place to be
 
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