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Have you ever pirated anything?
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Aye, this is why I love my Newsgroup account...its the top of the tree! (Well as far as I can be without getting involved...)
Rich
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I don't see it as stealing most of the time. I'd never buy or rent something even if I didn't download it, I'd just go without, so no one would be missing out. I might sometimes give copies of stuff to friends, but only when they wouldn't buy it either and I'd never sell them or make money on them in any way, as that would be unfair. Yes, I know it's wrong, but I'd not care. It is cool that you can do that, in a technological sense, but doing so wouldn't make me a cool person. It wouldn't make me dishonest or a criminal either though. The vast majority of people would agree if they are being truthful. 
Notice how carefully that is worded, this is opinion not an admission of guilt!
Notice how carefully that is worded, this is opinion not an admission of guilt!
That's strange that, stupid Vista!my vista 64 ultimate thinks its on dell machine
you can go into any record shop and listen to the music first, even high street chains
or if online shoppings your thing you can listen to previews of pretty much every tracks too
i hate that excuse
You mean in Zavvi where you can listen to the first 20-30 secs of each track? and on iTunes?
You can't listen to them all properly.
Rich
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When i was 23 i comandeered one of the big swans at alton towers, raised the jolly roger and shouted "aaaarrrghh` at passing kids
When i was 23 i comandeered one of the big swans at alton towers, raised the jolly roger and shouted "aaaarrrghh` at passing kids
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sorry but stealing isnt the same as breaking the speedlimit
stealing is the same as speading when u crash and hurt someone who is innocent
but speeding alone hurts nobody whereas stealing songs/films is hurting the movie/music buisness a lot
imo if you want a song enough to pirate it then it must be worth paying for
would u go to work every day and then give random people in the street half/ 3 quaters of your wages?
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imo this is what i think should happen
if you pirate things to make money deserve prison not a fine
if u download for personal use u deserve a fine to the value of the item multiplied by 10
if you use peer to peer to upload to people u deserve a fine again to the value of the item for every person who gets the item off ya
if you pirate things to make money deserve prison not a fine
if u download for personal use u deserve a fine to the value of the item multiplied by 10
if you use peer to peer to upload to people u deserve a fine again to the value of the item for every person who gets the item off ya
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You can download music/movies/games for FREE 
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You can ? were from ???
No idea!
Please tell us more of this 'pirating' you speak of!
To anyone stupid enough to take me seriously, i'm joking, i do know about it, and i do not condone it AT ALL
Why 10x the value?
Actually, that's called tax
well u couldnt chare the same price as the item could ya? i mean nobody would pay cos if they got cought theyd be paying for the item @ retail so would have to be more imo to make ppl not wanna do it
since when does the music buisness get our tax money??
i wouldnt leave anything about with the people posting in this thread tbh they would have it away
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I live in Newquay mate, the only music store I can walk into is wollys and they are a complete joke, even dedicated music stores don't always have what I want and to be honest I don't always know what I want, what I normally do is load up shoutcast through winamp, type in a particular type of music that I'm after, it brings up loads of radio stations playing the type of music that I want, I pick a good station and then make a note of the tracks names and artists of all my fav tracks throughout a 2/3 hour period, often I come away with many artists/track names that I've never heard of before,
most of the time they cannot be found on any of the main stream online mp3 music stores, and certainly not in the popular high-street stores and unless I hunt out a specialist music store (and they are getting rare these days) my chances of finding they stock the music I'm after is from nil to non tbh, anyway I will then type the track/artist names that I've collected into a p2p search engine and find what tracks come up and if there is an album attached to that artist, I will download the tracks and if I like the music I will normally find the album on-line usually by going to the artists record labels website site and purchase the album legally from there, many labels nowadays sell their catalog to the public directly from their record label and usually at quite a good price,
doing it this way also helps me build up a great list of often small record labels that also usually have a few other albums/artists in their catalogs that I'm interested in buying, also finding music the way I do above allows me to find new up and coming artists or even old ones that I've missed, allot of the time I'm looking for trance music for example and there are so many different artists and DJ's out there, many are not on the main stream music circuit and their music can only be purchased from their record labels online but actually finding and previewing their music legally is not easy, tbh it's pretty much impossible,
I don't know about everyone else but I know for a fact that I put more money into the music industry and usually into lesser known artists that don't have the backing of a large corporate record label since I've been able to use p2p and torrents to find and preview music.
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I do sometimes use youtube but it's hardly the same as listening to the same track/album at a half decent bit-rate over your can's to judge whether you really like the music or not, end of the day these artists are seeing my green, you may not believe this but a few times I've came across albums that are not available anywhere at all, not in the shops or even from the artists record label, like the album 'Memoryhouse' by Max Richter from the music label 'Fatcat Records' I rang them and said that I can't find their album anywhere for purchase and that I've had to download the music illegally,
I told them that if they have an original copy of the album anywhere then could I please purchase it from them but they said that they don't have any in stock and currently the album was out of production but they are thinking of putting it back into production due to many people inquiring about the availability of the album, they didn't even stutter at the fact that I had downloaded the album illegally and said to give them a call back in a couple of months after the new year and I should be able to purchase it then and thats exactly what I will do, I'm not a thief, I'm man that has a passion for music and wants to listen to the music properly before I part with my hard earned cash, if I like it I will buy it, they don't lose out, real music fans will pay for the music they like regardless of whether they are pirates or not, and it's the money from these real fans that make the artists rich in the first place,
look at it before mp3's/p2p/torrents came along, you had cd's and cassette's right, well anyone could duplicate both those formats easily, there was no copy protection on them (ok some cd's had copy protection but nothing serious), well did we see the music industry fail and artists like Madonna turned homeless because everyone decided to just share and copy music ?
, no of course not, if the music industry had the same extreme attitude as it does today about piracy 10/15 years ago then they would've banned dual tape deck recorders lol, it's just plain silly., they are taking it to the extremes, the main bulk of music fans will allways pay for their music, nothings going to change that.
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a lot of people on here, are just blatently lying, just tryin to blend in with the goody two shoes crowd, a lot of you have at some point, and you know it.
cough*that's piracy too*cough
So at say $15 for an album, and is a fairly new and popular album so about 1000 peers conservative estimate for a new album. the person should have to pay $15,150 in fines? as should every peer which would mean that he record label would get $15,150,000 for $15,000 of lost income (if you where to believe that every person would have bought it anyway.)
I get the feeling it would suddenly become massively more profitable to stop producing music and just go about suing people.
I suppose you think the $220,000 fine a mother of 2 got for sharing 24 songs was fine, in a case where they prosecution di not have to prove that she had file sharing software on her pc at the time of seizure or that she was the one using the pc at the time of the theft?
Also odd how you suggest someone here illegally use youtube for piracy then on the very next line say you find it annoying people condone theft.
Also what ever your personal view is the government and courts deam it not to be.
So cupra have you ever borrowed or lent a video, cd, dvd, to a friend put music on a stereo for others to listen to outside of your house, let someone listen to your mp3 player or listened to theirs, listened to a song on youtube or part of a tv show/stand-up routine?
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