Have you swapped your MSI 7950?

Rusty0611 · 18 Nov 2012 at 19:53

Arcane said:
I've struggled to find any meaningful 1440 benchmarks for SLI/Crossfire using 12.11 vs 310.54, most seem to link back to your thread which is 5760x1080. I'd really like to see some as I intend to run single screen 1440 & also 1080@120hz or 3D.

Yeah there isn't much out there.

AMD will be faster at this resolution undoubtedly but how much is anyone's guess! Probably somewhere around 10-15%.

Rusty0611 · 18 Nov 2012 at 19:54

TheMorningStar said:
My card has always seemed hot to me and others have commented but I'll look into it a little more, had a quick read around and it seems these problems are related to the TIM? Only? and MSI supports replacement of TIM without voiding warranty?

Spoffle replaced the TIM on his and it dropped temperature considerably but it was still 10c hotter than it should be suggesting some other kind of problem.

IC3 said:
what voltage should i try with 1100/1400 ?
Iv tried 1.25v after not even 1 min of heavy heaven benchmark my pc restarted

1.12V. It shouldn't restart from an overclock failure - mine just freezes and the driver restarts. Maybe there's another issue there.

IC3 · 18 Nov 2012 at 21:42

1.1v 1100/1400 temp 79c 75% fan speed. How much could the temp drop if iv change the TIM, but will I lose warranty? Typing from phone
I know that from the country I'm from there's a 14 day satisfaction warranty and you don't have to give any purpose of sending the item back.

Geo-Gamer · 18 Nov 2012 at 21:53

IC3 said:
1.1v 1100/1400 temp 79c 75% fan speed. How much could the temp drop if iv change the TIM, but will I lose warranty? Typing from phone
I know that from the country I'm from there's a 14 day satisfaction warranty and you don't have to give any purpose of sending the item back.

Hmm, sorry for repeating this but I think those temps are high with such a low oc and high fan speed %. The reason why I say this is because I have my fan at 65% with an oc of 1170/1800 @ 1175 volts and my temps don't exceed 64c.

Once again sorry for repeating my situation I'm just comparing my exact card with yours and I think your temps I way to high especially with that fan speed.

Gregster · 18 Nov 2012 at 21:55

The best thing to do is send it back and get the Gigabyte

cjph · 18 Nov 2012 at 22:10

I bought a TF3 and it idles at 54'C, 41% fan speed just doing nothing. Its been to 77'C but needs 70% fan which makes it hotter and louder than the unlocked and overclocked 6950 it replaced both at idle and under load. Can't fault the performance (I did not get a chance to clock it), and the box does state it is cooler and quieter, which is not my experience. Its going back tomorrow and replaced by the Gigabyte WF - OCUK faultless as always with their customer service (thanks 5UB). It was a toss up between WF and TF originally.

I've had MSI kit before and never a problem, likewise Gigabyte.

cj

Menty · 18 Nov 2012 at 23:19

gregster said:
The best thing to do is send it back and get the Gigabyte

I think that's what he really wants to hear tbh.

It does seem that those latest temps posted are high for the fanspeed though (just based on my own cards temps).

IC3 · 19 Nov 2012 at 09:42

Menty said:
I think that's what he really wants to hear tbh.

It does seem that those latest temps posted are high for the fanspeed though (just based on my own cards temps).

I don`t care what brand as long as the card stays cool and I can overclock it in the future.
I love the design of MSI but if it doesn`t satisfy my expectations.
Than I`ll go for something that will be cool, quiet and have some headroom of OC in the future.

cjph · 19 Nov 2012 at 09:49

One thing about the MSI is that it is the shortest card I can see amongst non-reference 7950s, and since it was a tight fit in my case (around 5mm to spare) I am not sure any of the other cards will fit, given they are typically 1-2cm longer. And my case can't be cut at that point.

Does anyone have any experience moving from the MSI to another card in a tight case ?

cj

IC3 · 19 Nov 2012 at 09:52

cjph said:
One thing about the MSI is that it is the shortest card I can see amongst non-reference 7950s, and since it was a tight fit in my case (around 5mm to spare) I am not sure any of the other cards will fit, given they are typically 1-2cm longer. And my case can't be cut at that point.

Does anyone have any experience moving from the MSI to another card in a tight case ?

cj

My case is Full tower about 32-35cm for the card.
I can easily change to gigabyte. If they will take the card and give a refund or another card...

Rusty0611 · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:01

cjph said:
One thing about the MSI is that it is the shortest card I can see amongst non-reference 7950s, and since it was a tight fit in my case (around 5mm to spare) I am not sure any of the other cards will fit, given they are typically 1-2cm longer. And my case can't be cut at that point.

Does anyone have any experience moving from the MSI to another card in a tight case ?

cj

The HIS is visibly longer... Few CM I'd say.

cjph · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:10

Yes, both the Windforce and HIS cards are on paper up to 2 cm longer. So I have minimal wiggle room, and not enough to take them. Roll on the TF fix . . .

cj

IC3 · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:11

cjph said:
Yes, both the Windforce and HIS cards are on paper up to 2 cm longer. So I have minimal wiggle room, and not enough to take them. Roll on the TF fix . . .

cj

Did you send you card back?
Or are you thinking of buying one?

Drizmod · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:14

I have raised a Web Note to get my MSI 7950 Swapped out for one from a newer batch. See how it goes.

Rusty0611 · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:21

Drizmod said:
I have raised a Web Note to get my MSI 7950 Swapped out for one from a newer batch. See how it goes.

The newer batch seems to have the same failure rate. Gibbo said before the opening weekend that a new batch had come in (on the thread with the deal on it) but since then numerous people have posted in saying their temperatures are not right. I've no idea if all of them are running hot or whether it is just a portion. It's completely possible that people don't realise their cards are running hot as well. Factor that in and it's plausible that they're all knackered.

I haven't seen one person post who's bought since it's came to light saying that theirs is running around 60-65c while overvolted anything up to 1137mV.

The silence from MSI since he posted in here also suggests it's a large problem and they're deciding what to do about it with regards to possible stock recalls. They also took a faulty one away for testing recently but even without testing it themselves the returns/comments are too many to ignore.

IC3 · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:25

Rusty0611 said:
The newer batch seems to have the same failure rate. Gibbo said before the opening weekend that a new batch had come in (on the thread with the deal on it) but since then numerous people have posted in saying their temperatures are not right. I've no idea if all of them are running hot or whether it is just a portion. It's completely possible that people don't realise their cards are running hot as well. Factor that in and it's plausible that they're all knackered.

I haven't seen one person post who's bought since it's came to light saying that there's is running around 60-65c while overvolted anything up to 1137mV.

The silence from MSI since he posted in here also suggests it's a large problem and they're deciding what to do about it with regards to possible stock recalls. They also took a faulty one away for testing recently but even without testing it themselves the returns/comments are too many to ignore.

So not to worry about getting another failure card is to just get Gigabyte or HIS. end of story

I wrote to OCUK customer service. When everything gets sorted out than I will inform you all in this thread.

In 3 years or earlier, when I upgrade because my 7950 will not coupe than. Ill still try MSI since, I love the design. And in other cards I heard their cooling is very cool and quiet as well.

Drizmod · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:39

Rusty0611 said:
The newer batch seems to have the same failure rate. Gibbo said before the opening weekend that a new batch had come in (on the thread with the deal on it) but since then numerous people have posted in saying their temperatures are not right. I've no idea if all of them are running hot or whether it is just a portion. It's completely possible that people don't realise their cards are running hot as well. Factor that in and it's plausible that they're all knackered.

I haven't seen one person post who's bought since it's came to light saying that theirs is running around 60-65c while overvolted anything up to 1137mV.

The silence from MSI since he posted in here also suggests it's a large problem and they're deciding what to do about it with regards to possible stock recalls. They also took a faulty one away for testing recently but even without testing it themselves the returns/comments are too many to ignore.

Thanks for that. I have asked for a refund now.

Mine hit 80 degrees on stock after playing The Witcher 2 for about 10 minutes. The fan noise was like a Jumbo Jet taking off

IC3 · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:44

Drizmod said:
Thanks for that. I have asked for a refund now.

Mine hit 80 degrees on stock after playing The Witcher 2 for about 10 minutes. The fan noise was like a Jumbo Jet taking off

Well when I have a normal room temp with the side panel of with a fan blowing on to the card than the stock temp are around 38-40 after palying bf3 the temps go up to 74-75 or more. Depends how long I play. I can hear the fans as well 60-68% underload...Borderlands doesnt get the card so hot because it only uses 50% of it.

cjph · 19 Nov 2012 at 11:42

IC3 said:
Did you send you card back?
Or are you thinking of buying one?

I have a TF3 which I purchased a week ago and I believe is one of the new batch, but with an idle temp of 54'C and what I think is excessive noise under load I am sending it back (it is hotter and louder than the previous reference card it replaced). Problem is its the only 7950 I have found which will fit in my case so HIS and Windforce are not optiond. I'll see if/what MSI come back with as I would really like to use the card.

And am getting the usual high standard of service from OCUK, thanks to 5UB.

cj

4737Joker · 19 Nov 2012 at 11:44

It would be nice to know if it was only a portion of the batch that is faulty, and if the others that seem ok at the moment(mine for example) will develop this problem.

I'd hate to keep my card thinking it's ok then a few months later it start running really hot when im past the refund stage.