Hazro series - HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27WA, HZ27WB & HZ27WC

Spit said:
My 3 glass WC's still going strong :) managed to get them level and put black tape down the joining gaps. Looks great now.

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Very nice setup.
 
Just wanted to share this for the rest of the 2560x1440 users.. if you sometimes lose track of your cursor, try using a different coloured one.
Bought a desktop a few days back so had to install Windows again and with my triple monitor setup (not as impressive as the one Spit has :)) I sometimes lose track of where my cursor is and it takes a while to find it. Don't have that problem very often with my laptop that uses the same monitor setup.

Difference between the two? The mouse cursor! Using the oxy-emerald mouse cursor from the oxygen cursors 'cursor pack'. It doesn't have the same colour as most websites (white) and is a little fatter than the default one. Above link provides the same cursor in 37 colours, should be something in there for everyone.
 
Nice set up Spit, I'm looking at one of those monitors myself.

Are you just using out-of-the-box calibration, or did you tweak them with an ICC profile?

A 7950 should be able to get respectable FPS in most games at full native res shouldn't it?
 
Hey guys/gals.

I've been looking about for a new monitor for my new setup.
Basically thinking of going with the HZ27WC Glass Black.
Have a few questions before taking the plunge though.

1. Is it still quite common to suffer some of the noted issues with the panels (as within the thread) or have they smoothed this out? As I'm quite a picky person and if I notice things aren't close to perfect I'd end up sending it back.

2. If you had to choose another monitor of similar quality which would it be?

3. Say I do decide to plunge for this badboy, will my mind be blown away?

Currently using a Samsung SM2232BW and as I'm getting a new system (7970 in toe) I wanted to get the most out of it with the higher resolution.
Will mostly be used for gaming, reading and such.

Cheers, Jimbo.
 
Jimbo85uk said:
Hey guys/gals.

I've been looking about for a new monitor for my new setup.
Basically thinking of going with the HZ27WC Glass Black.
Have a few questions before taking the plunge though.

1. Is it still quite common to suffer some of the noted issues with the panels (as within the thread) or have they smoothed this out? As I'm quite a picky person and if I notice things aren't close to perfect I'd end up sending it back.

2. If you had to choose another monitor of similar quality which would it be?

3. Say I do decide to plunge for this badboy, will my mind be blown away?

Currently using a Samsung SM2232BW and as I'm getting a new system (7970 in toe) I wanted to get the most out of it with the higher resolution.
Will mostly be used for gaming, reading and such.

Cheers, Jimbo.
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HZ27WC Glass is a great monitor but to get a faultless one is a bit of a lottery. problems may occur on day one or after 6 months from my experience. if you do need to have multiple inputs or 1080p sources, go for the WD
 
Multiple Inputs isn't an issue for me as it's only for PC use.
But what is an issue is whether or not I would receive what I'm paying for, if that's as you suggest a bit of a lottery, then is there any other monitors around at the same standards?

I'm just concerned that I'd end up wasting time sending a faulty product back and in turn may never even get near to a perfect panel. Which when spending around 400 quid, seems a bit cheeky.
If it's worth the risk, then I may take it, as if I'm not happy, I can always replace it for another brand.
 
I would (did) take the risk, returned the first one then ordered another 2 when a new batch came in to stock and they are great. If you see them on special offer I would suggest you take the chance as I don't know of anything of the same spec at the price.
 
An update on my RMA:

Hazro has agreed to sent me a replacement. They sent it on friday. Today it's already in my country, so it should arrive tomorrow.
Their service was great. They've always answered to my mails within a day. Hazro even sent me a mail an hour ago with a UPS tracking number in it, which I had already received from UPS. I think it's nice that they did that. They didn't have to, but they did.
I'll post an update here tomorrow if I receive my new monitor. Hopefully it'll be one without any problems :)
 
Jimbo85uk said:
Multiple Inputs isn't an issue for me as it's only for PC use.
But what is an issue is whether or not I would receive what I'm paying for, if that's as you suggest a bit of a lottery, then is there any other monitors around at the same standards?

I'm just concerned that I'd end up wasting time sending a faulty product back and in turn may never even get near to a perfect panel. Which when spending around 400 quid, seems a bit cheeky.
If it's worth the risk, then I may take it, as if I'm not happy, I can always replace it for another brand.
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They're ceasing production of the glass variety as they can't make them faultless... so that's the one you're most likely to experience issues with.

The non-glass seems a safer bet, but their dead pixel policy is terrible.

I stumped the extra £150 for the Dell U2711, glad I did - no backlight bleed, solid build quality, not a single dead pixel, displayport is a nice addition as I can hook up my work laptop, useful stand... no hassle.

Worth the extra...
 
Thanks for the reply, genuinely appreciated.

I was also looking at the U2711 myself, it seems the extra money gets you a decent warranty and customer service. So probably my best option, as I don't fancy causing myself stress over sending monitors back and forth.
How does the Dell perform as a panel for gaming? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do play quite a bit. I only ask as I've read some comments about it having quite high input lag.

Cheers again, Jimbo.
 
Jimbo85uk said:
Thanks for the reply, genuinely appreciated.

I was also looking at the U2711 myself, it seems the extra money gets you a decent warranty and customer service. So probably my best option, as I don't fancy causing myself stress over sending monitors back and forth.
How does the Dell perform as a panel for gaming? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do play quite a bit. I only ask as I've read some comments about it having quite high input lag.

Cheers again, Jimbo.
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Having a discussion about it here - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18371152

The input lag is nothing to worry about, it's actually better than average and really not that much worse than the Hazro (for input lag). Everything else is significantly better. It seems the only people really complaining about the input lag are those looking at the figures going "ooooh... it's double the Hazro". Double a small number, is still a small number.

I've used it almost as much for gaming as I have for work - BF3 looks so pretty :)

Yeah - Dell warranty is top-notch. Heck, there's even one who had an old 1920x1200 27" screen - had some issues, ended up getting a U2711 as a replacement :eek: Stories like that aren't un-heard of and they're next-day onsite.

I had a lot of dealings with them at one place I worked - always exceptional. Makes a laughing stock of viewsonic/hyundai, let alone Hazro.

Funnily enough, it was the warranty / dead pixel / glass dust issues that sent me looking for the Dell... I didn't want to lose days and money to couriers, waiting around for ages to get a decent screen. Then there was the lack of scaler, better stand, multiple inputs and price drop to £550... I clicked buy :)

Contemplating 2 more, just know I'll cry when I try playing a game at 7680x1440 :D
 
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crinkleshoes said:
It seems the only people really complaining about the input lag are those looking at the figures going "ooooh... it's double the Hazro".
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And those unfortunate people who have had a lot of experience with monitors of much lower latency and get a bit OCD about things like that ;). I certainly agree that people shouldn't go figurehunting or be put off by what you see 'on paper'. Many people get along just fine with the U2711 for all sorts of gaming and more power to them. You won't know until you try Jimbo :).
 
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PCM2 said:
And those who have had a lot of experience with monitors of much lower latency. :) But I agree that you shouldn't go figurehunting or be put off by what you see 'on paper'. Many people get along just fine with the U2711 for all sorts of gaming and more power to them.
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Fair, but you're in the minority :D

Two questions for you:
- If you could choose just one monitor - which would it be and why?
- If you could choose just one 2560xXXXX monitor - which would it be and why?

... with relation to solely gaming and in combination with desktop use :)



It's a shame that there is no "correct" answer, it's too subjective - would make life simpler if there was.

I've had experience with the older series of 30" Dells (had three of the beasts at one time, lol)... a handful of other IPS and PVA monitors and too many TN panels. I have yet to experience the likes of an SA950 yet though... hear TN and runaway screaming :D

EDIT: I notice and get frustrated by DLP/Plasma colour banding etc, so I'm not immune to short lifespan visual anomalies... the best way to figure out if it's something that will annoy you is to try for yourself, no one else can tell you. All I can say is that it's my view that the majority of people would prefer the vibrancy of an IPS panel with CCFL backlight over a small input lag difference.
 
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crinkleshoes said:
Fair, but you're in the minority :D

Two questions for you:
- If you could choose just one monitor - which would it be and why?
- If you could choose just one 2560xXXXX monitor - which would it be and why?

... with relation to solely gaming and in combination with desktop use :)



It's a shame that there is no "correct" answer, it's too subjective
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Yeah too right. I am fortunate enough to be able to cycle monitors frequently - never really settle on one in particular. Sometimes it is the case that the 'more you know' (or the more you've experienced, at least) the more critical you become and the less likely you are to ever be satisfied. When I first used LCD monitors I could happily use something around 19 inches with your typical matte screen for general purpose stuff at work. I did hang on to my CRT(s) for a long while for gaming though because the early LCDs would 'ghost' badly and cost too much to warrant the upgrade at the time.

As things moved on and my interest in the technology grew I started testing out all sorts of new fangled monitors. It has now got to the stage where my preferences have driven me to slightly dislike anything with a higher haze value than about 15% (BenQ VA range), slightly dislike anything that isn't 120Hz, slightly dislike what is actually a fairly reasonable level of input lag, slightly dislike the colour reproduction of TN panels, slightly dislike anything smaller than 27" and slightly dislike not having contrast levels and black uniformity of a VA panel... So I'm not sure what I'd settle on. Something I slightly dislike I imagine! :D

I think that overall I could settle on something like the upcoming SA970 if I had to. But there are many unknowns as that is not yet released and there were many issues that the previous SA850 had than I can only hope have been addressed. I have found alternating between the SA850, SA750 and Apple LED Cinema Display has worked quite nicely recently. They all have something different I dislike and different qualities I do like. :cool:
 
How can I get one of these second hand?

After it for 3dsmax, photoshop, cad, photography. Think the HZ27WB is correct?

Can these be got used or second hand? How much can I expect to pay, low budget. :confused:
 
With only £200 you're better off keeping an eye out for smaller second hand monitors. New they're almost 500 quid so you don't even have half of that. I think you'd be lucky if you could find a decent second hand 24" wide gamut monitor for that price.
 
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