Hazro series - HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27WA, HZ27WB & HZ27WC
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Has anyone owned a Hazro HZ27WC and Hazro HZ27WD ? is there that much of an improvement for the price difference going from 8-bit to 10
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To take advantage of a true 30-bit workflow would indeed require a certain hardware (and software) setup. Also let's not forget the HZ27WD is only natively 8-bit and achieves 10-bit using dithering. The colour support differences certainly shouldn't be something to worry or even ponder about for too long. 
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Yeah I saw that it had a display port but that isn't worth an extra £120 by itself, not for me anyway.
To take advantage of a true 30-bit workflow would indeed require a certain hardware (and software) setup. Also let's not forget the HZ27WD is only natively 8-bit and achieves 10-bit using dithering. The colour support differences certainly shouldn't be something to worry or even ponder about for too long.
Thanks for the response so I might as well just get one of those cheap South Korean monitors then from that other thread I've just been browsing in. Even if there is a pixel/screen/warranty risk most people seem to be happy with them.
I didn't really know what the differences were bar added inputs + the increase in price so I thought it was to do mainly with it being a10-bit monitor.
After a whole month of my HZ27WC being away on RMA, I finally received my new one today. No dead pixels or anything that I can see, so that's great. Overclockers were pretty ridiculous though, as were DPD.
First of all, they didn't bother to contact me on whether I wanted a non-glass replacement or a refund. The only reason I knew they weren't making or selling the glass panel version anymore was from reading the forums. How is anyone supposed to know who doesn't read the forums at all? Anyway, I had been checking back on Overclockers every couple of days to see when the HZ27WC was coming back in and noticed they were back in stock on 6/4. So I came to the forums and saw it had come back in stock on 5/4 and peoples' replacements or original orders had been sent. I was rather annoyed but gave them the benefit of the doubt that they may be very busy, so I lef it for another day. After still hearing nothing, we phoned them and they said "we didn't know if you wanted a replacement or a refund". Are you kidding me? Hahah. Unbelievable. Why the hell they didn't email me or call me to find out BEFORE the monitor came back in stock, I'll never know.
They sent it on saturday anyway, just after the phone call. Of course, it was a holiday on monday, so it wasn't expected until today. I'd been keeping a very close eye on my DPD tracking and it arrived at my local depot this morning at 10.50am. We were going to be out for most of the day so we called DPD to see when it would be arriving. They said "we can't send it out today as you haven't paid for 1 day delivery. That means you have to wait another day to receive it." Seriously? I didn't pay for postage at all because it's a frikkin' replacement for a broken product and now it's sitting in the depot doing nothing at all -.-
So we went managed to go out of our way and pick it up at the depot rather than wait another day and possibly miss it.
Sorry for the extreme rant, I'll forgive anyone who couldn't be bothered to read it
Anyway, what I also wanted to come and ask was if anyone knew of any good monitor stands to get for the HZ27WC? The one I have now seems to be more tilted forward than my previous one.
First of all, they didn't bother to contact me on whether I wanted a non-glass replacement or a refund. The only reason I knew they weren't making or selling the glass panel version anymore was from reading the forums. How is anyone supposed to know who doesn't read the forums at all? Anyway, I had been checking back on Overclockers every couple of days to see when the HZ27WC was coming back in and noticed they were back in stock on 6/4. So I came to the forums and saw it had come back in stock on 5/4 and peoples' replacements or original orders had been sent. I was rather annoyed but gave them the benefit of the doubt that they may be very busy, so I lef it for another day. After still hearing nothing, we phoned them and they said "we didn't know if you wanted a replacement or a refund". Are you kidding me? Hahah. Unbelievable. Why the hell they didn't email me or call me to find out BEFORE the monitor came back in stock, I'll never know.
They sent it on saturday anyway, just after the phone call. Of course, it was a holiday on monday, so it wasn't expected until today. I'd been keeping a very close eye on my DPD tracking and it arrived at my local depot this morning at 10.50am. We were going to be out for most of the day so we called DPD to see when it would be arriving. They said "we can't send it out today as you haven't paid for 1 day delivery. That means you have to wait another day to receive it." Seriously? I didn't pay for postage at all because it's a frikkin' replacement for a broken product and now it's sitting in the depot doing nothing at all -.-
So we went managed to go out of our way and pick it up at the depot rather than wait another day and possibly miss it.
Sorry for the extreme rant, I'll forgive anyone who couldn't be bothered to read it
Anyway, what I also wanted to come and ask was if anyone knew of any good monitor stands to get for the HZ27WC? The one I have now seems to be more tilted forward than my previous one.
TAC4U - post more directed at you,
from what I have read you have owned a 27wc and a dell using their antiglare screen - and now a 30wie
I realize you returned the 27wc (from what I read) but how do you like the screen of the 30wie compared to the 27wc? as far as the glossy compared to the is it antiglare of the 30wie? - did you try games out on each and how's the game play on the 30wie? ...
would you know if there are any issues to run the 30wie at a res of 2556x1440 (some games appear to be made more for widescreens now adays (diablo 3)).
any other comments on the 30wie? (still havnt pulled the trigger on a new monitor)
from what I have read you have owned a 27wc and a dell using their antiglare screen - and now a 30wie
I realize you returned the 27wc (from what I read) but how do you like the screen of the 30wie compared to the 27wc? as far as the glossy compared to the is it antiglare of the 30wie? - did you try games out on each and how's the game play on the 30wie? ...
would you know if there are any issues to run the 30wie at a res of 2556x1440 (some games appear to be made more for widescreens now adays (diablo 3)).
any other comments on the 30wie? (still havnt pulled the trigger on a new monitor)
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Tilt it back, there a bit stiff but they do move.
HAZRO 27 WC
Just thought I'd balance the negativity with my great experience.
Had been waiting since the reviews - saw they were in and ordered from OCUK on Thursday afternoon before the Easter bank holiday. It arrive next working day Tuesday just after 1:0 oclock Impressive!
Spent half hour with DPS program Dead Pixels NONE!
Light Bleed - None!
Default Colour - Excellent!
Screen Coating 2H - Nice anti reflectivity but absolutely clear image no flaring like our Apples at work! I use mine for CGI Design work and for gaming and so far its been excellent!
Just thought I'd balance the negativity with my great experience.Had been waiting since the reviews - saw they were in and ordered from OCUK on Thursday afternoon before the Easter bank holiday. It arrive next working day Tuesday just after 1:0 oclock Impressive!
Spent half hour with DPS program Dead Pixels NONE!
Light Bleed - None!
Default Colour - Excellent!
Screen Coating 2H - Nice anti reflectivity but absolutely clear image no flaring like our Apples at work! I use mine for CGI Design work and for gaming and so far its been excellent!
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Temporary price cut on the HZ27WC or a pricing error ? £399.95 at the moment.
Hi Stanton, did you ever get a fix for your 7970's I now have the problem you had :s I take it you went green to fix the problem
thanks
Hi Crezzlin
Yup gave up in the end had 2 sets of 7970's from overclockers and had the same problems with both, single card was fine but the minute i ran two cards together it crashed in pretty much every game.
im glad im not the only person now that has had this problem as far as overclockers were concerned it was incompatability with my setup and didnt seem to want to do anything else so ended up going to a competor to get my 680's.
just to check what bios are you running on the rampage 4 extreme as i noticed that after i got everything sorted with my setup asus released a new bios and one of the notes on the bios update was that it fixed problems with 7970 cards when the temps were below 40 the card wouldnt be picked up.
it might be worth updating to the latest bios to see if it fixed the problem would be intrested to know if it fixes the issue for you.
I see you went for three of the catleap monitors are they any good, saw them recenly but the bezels look guite big on them and look they would be a nightmare process to get them mounted on a single screen multi monitor mount.
Yup gave up in the end had 2 sets of 7970's from overclockers and had the same problems with both, single card was fine but the minute i ran two cards together it crashed in pretty much every game.
im glad im not the only person now that has had this problem as far as overclockers were concerned it was incompatability with my setup and didnt seem to want to do anything else so ended up going to a competor to get my 680's.
just to check what bios are you running on the rampage 4 extreme as i noticed that after i got everything sorted with my setup asus released a new bios and one of the notes on the bios update was that it fixed problems with 7970 cards when the temps were below 40 the card wouldnt be picked up.
it might be worth updating to the latest bios to see if it fixed the problem would be intrested to know if it fixes the issue for you.
I see you went for three of the catleap monitors are they any good, saw them recenly but the bezels look guite big on them and look they would be a nightmare process to get them mounted on a single screen multi monitor mount.
Hi, I had it in my head you had desktop crashes only! I'm getting display not responding and mouse freezing, Ive done everything i can think of.
On a second note i disabled windows Aero before and its not happened since, as for the screens. The Hazro's are perfect but as i have bad cataracts any difference in light just stands out to me, the glare was too much so i was going to change back to TN until i seen the Catleap, like you said the bezel is a little bigger but its not bothering me, if i was to find a way to mount the monitors with out bezel it would be perfect as they are very small under the plastic, the problem is the vesa mounts are part of the plastic case..
Anyway the picture is amazing, and the no glare Apart from a little in the corners on a black/lank screen.
How you find the GTX680's do you think i would see a difference if i changed over? Thanks
(I mist out i have the latest bios, but made no difference :s)
On a second note i disabled windows Aero before and its not happened since, as for the screens. The Hazro's are perfect but as i have bad cataracts any difference in light just stands out to me, the glare was too much so i was going to change back to TN until i seen the Catleap, like you said the bezel is a little bigger but its not bothering me, if i was to find a way to mount the monitors with out bezel it would be perfect as they are very small under the plastic, the problem is the vesa mounts are part of the plastic case..
Anyway the picture is amazing, and the no glare
Apart from a little in the corners on a black/lank screen.How you find the GTX680's do you think i would see a difference if i changed over? Thanks
(I mist out i have the latest bios, but made no difference :s)
No i was getting all of that along with complete hardlocks of my entire system couldnt even reset it had to do a total shutdown of the entire system.
The GTX 680's are so much better seem to run queiter and seem to run faster than the 7970's as well.
Also if you had problems with screen tearing that is gone as well as i can connect all three monitor via dvi-d connections.
if your getting those problems as well i would switch over to the GTX 680's.
Ive always been AMD as nvidia had driver problems before but all seems to be gone every game i play works perfectly.
The GTX 680's are so much better seem to run queiter and seem to run faster than the 7970's as well.
Also if you had problems with screen tearing that is gone as well as i can connect all three monitor via dvi-d connections.
if your getting those problems as well i would switch over to the GTX 680's.
Ive always been AMD as nvidia had driver problems before but all seems to be gone every game i play works perfectly.
crezzlin hope this is allowed in forum rules but there is a guide here on overclock.net on how to remove the stand for vesa mounting - http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club
Thanks Stanton, Ive managed to remove the stands, what i ment was if you remove the bezel it also removes the vesa mounting holes so you need to keep the bezel on the monitos.. Thanks for the link
I will try sell my cards then and get 2 680's think ive put up with AMD drivers and tearing for too long.
I will try sell my cards then and get 2 680's think ive put up with AMD drivers and tearing for too long.
Thanks Stanton, Ive managed to remove the stands, what i ment was if you remove the bezel it also removes the vesa mounting holes so you need to keep the bezel on the monitos.. Thanks for the link
I will try sell my cards then and get 2 680's think ive put up with AMD drivers and tearing for too long.
Crezzlin, any reason you went with 3 catleaps instead of your 3 30 inch hazros? - I just bought a catleap and am wondering if I should have went with a 30 inch hazro instead. I think Im so used to my matte screen or something; eyes feel funny looking at the glossy screen of my catleap.
I should say instead of going for > 60 hz I think I saw you got 3 2b's.
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Sorry I took a while to respond.
I liked the glossy surface of the HZ27WD - it makes the image appear more vibrant and doesn't have the same noise of anti-glare, which can sometimes be intrusive (like the Dell U2410). However, the obvious downside is that you get very noticeable reflections - it doesn't take long to adjust to but it's a personal preference thing. The HZ30Wie has an anti-glare coating but it's not as severe. Personally I'm happy with either. As for gaming, I gave it a go for the couple of days that I had the monitor and found it very responsive - noticeably better than the Dell. In terms of gaming it seems to be the same as the HZ30Wie, which is to say very good for a non-TN panel.
You can run the HZ30Wie at 1440p without stretching if you set your graphics card not to scale the image - it works without issue. The same with lower resolutions like 1200p/1080p, though the border around the image is more distracting.
The one thing I would say is that the pixel density on the HZ27WD is noticeably higher. That means that the image is slightly sharper but it also means that in the desktop environment everything appears slightly smaller. That's true for the HZ30Wie at well when compared to a 24" 1200p but the it's not as noticeable. Finally, the build quality on the 30Wie is noticeably better - the stand especially but the bevel too - and it is noticeably bigger. I think it's a great monitor and am happy that I went with it over the 27WD but both are very good monitors (if you get one without any issues). If you've got the money then the 30Wie is a great pick.