Hazro series - HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27WA, HZ27WB & HZ27WC

klaus said:
I am doubting between the HZ27WA and HZ27WC, for office use with a lot of reading and writing on multiple documents (the 2560x1440 will be very useful; I am working now on a close distance of about 55cm with my actual 20" 1650x1050), and I think that a high density is good for reading close to the screen (in all the programs I use I can adjust the scale of reproduction).

I am doubting between the 2 models because I am doing some editing of photos, too. The A-model might give a bit more of quality in color and gradients, but I am not sure if the difference will be perceptible.
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I currently use a very similar distance from the screen for the following applications: web browsing, coding, Flash development, photos, 2D paint, 3D model & animation, 2D effects, word processing, and video editing.

I do not use any colour managed applications and everything I develop is for RGB output, so the sRGB colour space of the HZ27WC is my choice. The factory calibration should be fine. I'm not keen on a wide gamut monitor nor fiddling with calibration (except by suitable ICC download). The gloss screen will show very clean fine details, something I currently enjoy and which I'm not willing to compromise with harsh anti-glare. This is my personal preference.

Going by my iPad's IPS gloss screen as a sample, I'm looking forward to using a large IPS monitor! :cool:
 
SaladDressing said:
I do not use any colour managed applications and everything I develop is for RGB output, so the sRGB colour space of the HZ27WC is my choice.
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The HZ27WA has the same colour Space as the C-version: sRGB only. The B-version has a wide gamut, but has AG-coating.

SaladDressing said:
The gloss screen will show very clean fine details, something I currently enjoy and which I'm not willing to compromise with harsh anti-glare. This is my personal preference.
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That's my preference, too. Don't have problems with light behind me, and I prefer clear and easy to read text, with high definition, and enough space. Maybe I will go for the A-version, to gain a little bit of colour quality for photos.

Cheers - Klaus
 
I'm looking for a Monitor to get me back into gaming more something that will draw me into the world.

Just £800 odd or 400 27C is a a lot and am not sure if the 30 1600 is steps ahead or not.

If 1600 Rezo is not much better then 1400 I'll go 27C and save 400 quid.
 
klaus said:
The HZ27WA has the same colour Space as the C-version: sRGB only. Maybe I will go for the A-version, to gain a little bit of colour quality for photos.
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Now that you mention it, I'm wondering about this 8-bit + AFRC of the HZ27WA monitor. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding: Just like the HZ27WC, this monitor displays the sRGB colour space (i.e. not wide gamut) but simulates finer gradations between standard 8-bit colours using AFRC. This simulation happens inside the monitor / panel hardware, effectively increasing the quality of whatever 8-bit per component image was fed in.

Or does the image come in at 10-bits from the graphics card? If so, what's the point? If the computer generates RGB 255,149,1 and that is sent to a 8-bit + AFRC monitor - even via a 10-bit graphics card - then it is still only 255,149,1 of the sRGB colour space that gets displayed, right?

If we have a gradation running from 0,0,0 through 128,128,128 to 255,255,255 at 10 pixels width per colour (2560 pixels wide in total) then what would the difference between the HZ27WA and HZ27WC be? Would the former actually display the gradation better? I can't think how.

OK, so my "understanding" of it has produced more questions than answers. Time for someone else to step in... please :confused:
 
SaladDressing said:
Now that you mention it, I'm wondering about this 8-bit + AFRC of the HZ27WA monitor. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding: Just like the HZ27WC, this monitor displays the sRGB colour space (i.e. not wide gamut) but simulates finer gradations between standard 8-bit colours using AFRC. This simulation happens inside the monitor / panel hardware, effectively increasing the quality of whatever 8-bit per component image was fed in.

Or does the image come in at 10-bits from the graphics card? If so, what's the point? If the computer generates RGB 255,149,1 and that is sent to a 8-bit + AFRC monitor - even via a 10-bit graphics card - then it is still only 255,149,1 of the sRGB colour space that gets displayed, right?

If we have a gradation running from 0,0,0 through 128,128,128 to 255,255,255 at 10 pixels width per colour (2560 pixels wide in total) then what would the difference between the HZ27WA and HZ27WC be? Would the former actually display the gradation better? I can't think how.

OK, so my "understanding" of it has produced more questions than answers. Time for someone else to step in... please :confused:
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I am not an expert in these things, either. As far a I understand:
  • The A-model accepts 10bit from the graphics-card, but most graphics-cards work with 8bits only (and Photoshop it seems doesn't give 10bit screen output, either).
  • With 10bits, you get for each pixel 1024 different values for red, green and blue (not 256). These are distributed over the color space you achieve with your system (with wide gamut the steps between individual colours should be a little bit wider, using the same number of steps).
  • When you work with an 8bit graphics card, there might be still a small advantage of the A-model in colour reproduction, because you can calibrate with the hardware controls of the screen. If you calibrate on the computer side, you cannot make use of all the 256x256x256 colour values the screen of the C-model can show.

Please correct me, where I a have misunderstood things.

Cheers - Klaus
 
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klaus said:
I just received an answer from hazro, telling me that:
The HZ27WA/B/C models will be available in 2 weeks from Overclockers. All EU purchases can be made directly from our new site due to go live next week. Pricing is to be set but we expect a MSRP of max £550 and £420 [inc. VAT] for the HZ27WA and HZ27WC respectively [although launch promos maybe on offer]. Also, EU business customers with a valid TAX ID can purchase the product tax free.
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Been nearly a week since the above post of 9 March... should be very close to Hazro's new site opening.

It would be really nice for Hazro to chip in on the forum with some encouraging words. At least I hope they will also open all their lines of communication when they open their new site.

Because of the industries I have experience in, I'll add these thoughts regarding the new plastic 27" monitor enclosures: It takes a lot of financial investment and risk for a company to release a plastic molded product (unless they are sourcing an existing generic component). Strategically it means Hazro anticipates moving large volumes of monitors and that they are committed for the medium to long term to pay off their investment. Whereas metal enclosures can be manufactured in small quantities based on cutting and folding templates with relatively small input capital, plastic requires large volume production runs and hopefully high volume sales to pay off the input expense of the custom mold development (in itself often a long and costly process). It is not uncommon to see a new product start out using metal and then when plans / investment / market response warrants it, to make the shift to a plastic version. To me the plastic enclosure is therefore a positive signal regarding Hazro's plans and their commitment to the 27" format.
 
I sent a couple e-mails to Hazro the last couple weeks, but still no reply. I wanted to buy the HZ30Wi. The lack of support/information/response makes me go purchase a U3011 instead. Perhaps I will have better luck with you, Hazro, next time.
 
Hansen said:
I sent a couple e-mails to Hazro the last couple weeks, but still no reply. I wanted to buy the HZ30Wi. The lack of support/information/response makes me go purchase a U3011 instead. Perhaps I will have better luck with you, Hazro, next time.
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Yeah, I don't get it at all to be honest, because if they put in a little bit more effort on forums or just give a little bit more information on their sites, even if it was an empty page with some info they would have more customers. Now they lose customers, simple as that.
 
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i've been informed that OcUK should be getting delivery by next week at latest so expect to see them go live on the site very soon :) let's hope all goes well
 
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