Help me with a new build, no budget

marktruman · 18 Apr 2017 at 12:45

Plec said:
Yes, it's called the Plec Phenomena Series - you buy all top end Ryzen parts combined with a 1080ti and 21:9 screen, assemble components and then be amazed at how quickly the latest technology disappears when left on the doorstep of a given address...

That or watch it blown up by bomb disposal as it would essentially be an unmarked package, seemingly randomly disposed off - would still be amazing, as long as it didn't take out my house after the builders have been. However, blown up before they arrive - I get the work done for free. That would be an amazing technology advancement for a PC - remodelling a house!

Funny you should mention bomb disposal, I put an ancient cpu cooler in the public bin outside flat and had some dodgy looks, to the unknown it could look like a device of some sort haha

I have an old fractal r4 case with corsair 750W psu in, however its 2 years old.. will have to take it to the tip, or do you think its worth sticking on ebay for a fiver with 20 quid postage?

Plec · 18 Apr 2017 at 12:58

If the case is in good nick and PSU is clean I would try Gumtree - local pickup more cash in your pocket.

I'm too lazy to post things - especially large items and arranging pickup. With Gumtree, they do the legwork and all you have to do is take a couple of photos.

Broken Hope · 20 Apr 2017 at 14:32

Update the bios on your board Gigabyte fixed the high vcore issues. Mine runs at 1.2v at load under prime 95 with avx.

marktruman · 21 Apr 2017 at 01:30

Broken Hope said:
Update the bios on your board Gigabyte fixed the high vcore issues. Mine runs at 1.2v at load under prime 95 with avx.

is updating the bios a big job? cant say I have ever done that before

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 01:36

marktruman said:
is updating the bios a big job? cant say I have ever done that before

No, we can talk you through it if required.

(Not now though - I was meant to be asleep 2hrs ago

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marktruman · 21 Apr 2017 at 11:17

Plec said:
No, we can talk you through it if required.

(Not now though - I was meant to be asleep 2hrs ago )

it would help, im not too bad on computers its just the flashing of bios can cause damage I hear

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 11:36

It's possible but rare - but your MB has a dual BIOS so practically zero risk.

Rule of thumb - don't flash from Windows (actually that should be a rule of thumb in general life too)

marktruman · 21 Apr 2017 at 11:42

Plec said:
It's possible but rare - but your MB has a dual BIOS so practically zero risk.

Rule of thumb - don't flash from Windows (actually that should be a rule of thumb in general life too)

Yeah I see there is a FLASH BIOS setting when I bootup if I press END

I just need to get the correct file

edit

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z270X-Ultra-Gaming-rev-10#dl

which one, f4?

currently using F2 with bios date of 2016

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 12:43

You don't need the Optane update and you can't revert back to a previous BIOS if it goes wrong (negating the dual BIOS safety feature) - so i would get the F4 as it mentions the the voltage update you're after.

marktruman · 21 Apr 2017 at 12:57

Plec said:
You don't need the Optane update and you can't revert back to a previous BIOS if it goes wrong (negating the dual BIOS safety feature) - so i would get the F4 as it mentions the the voltage update you're after.

so its basically download the bios file to hard drive, run the flash bios utility in the startup, select that file and off we go?

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:26

Not looked at your MB manual - but is the 'bios utility' a window app?

As it's a Gigabyte board do you have a Q-flash option within the BIOS?

Could be you're talking about the latter in which case ignore...

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:30

If you use q flash and are using a USB stick - i recommend formatting the USB stick (fat 32) and then installing the unzipped BIOS onto the stick - just the file not the folder.

Then get to the BIOS select the drive then file and flash away...

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:36

Looks like you were talking about q-flash - link

In which case you could direct it to the file on your HDD - i've always used a USB drive, old habits, easy to identify, very slim chance of corruption (but important to reformat to fat 32) etc...

marktruman · 21 Apr 2017 at 14:18

Plec said:
Looks like you were talking about q-flash - link

In which case you could direct it to the file on your HDD - i've always used a USB drive, old habits, easy to identify, very slim chance of corruption (but important to reformat to fat 32) etc...

yep looks like im going to have to go get usb stick

the q-flash doesnt show my hdd, just says A:/unknowndevice and i cant select more, and in A it has microsoft and boot, strange

Plec · 21 Apr 2017 at 14:36

Probably because it's using NTFS rather than fat 32 - not sure - always used stick.

marktruman · 24 Apr 2017 at 14:37

Plec said:
Looks like you were talking about q-flash - link

In which case you could direct it to the file on your HDD - i've always used a USB drive, old habits, easy to identify, very slim chance of corruption (but important to reformat to fat 32) etc...

updated bios, and ran prime 95 again... does it look ok? I notice that it doesnt use all 4 cores.. weird

it will like go to 60 then to 0.. then back upto 100.. maybe thats how prime 95 wrks

http://imgur.com/a/L8Stq

Plec · 24 Apr 2017 at 16:41

Your temps are fine/great and voltage so the CPU wouldn't have throttled through thermal problems.

When you ran prime before the BIOS update - did it run cores 100% through whole test?
What test were you running - blend, small FFts?
**When the loads dropped did you have any error codes within the prime screen - e,g, warning "Error on core 2 expected 0.x..."?**
What version of prime95 are you running - 29.1?

marktruman · 24 Apr 2017 at 17:06

Plec said:
Your temps are fine/great and voltage so the CPU wouldn't have throttled through thermal problems.

When you ran prime before the BIOS update - did it run cores 100% through whole test?

What test were you running - blend, small FFts?

**When the loads dropped did you have any error codes within the prime screen - e,g, warning "Error on core 2 expected 0.x..."?**

What version of prime95 are you running - 29.1?

1/ not sure if it did 100 percent through whole test but dont remember seeing them drops
2/ Im going to options > benchmark.. testing it that way?
3/ no error codes
4/ 28.10

extra note, just ran a small ffts thread and they stayed at 100 percent load

http://imgur.com/a/Kp1ig

Plec · 24 Apr 2017 at 17:18

marktruman said:
extra note, just ran a small ffts thread and they stayed at 100 percent load

Great - and great temps.