How will Nvidia react to the AMD 6000 series launch?

[Nablaoperator]

Nvidia will be so miffed at having slower cards that they'll withdraw their cards from sale in protest.

You won't be able to buy one anywhere!

Leather jacket got the ARM timing right, merged when share prices were highest, he is still a happy man

So maybe price drops for his Pascale gaming friends out of generosity?

 

[Quartz]

The more important aspect actually is that AMD did this using less power consumed, what the 3090 uses nearly 400 watts?

Really? I think that most people don't really care. I think they'd only really care if they had to buy a new PSU.

 

[Kaapstad]

Really? I think that most people don't really care. I think they'd only really care if they had to buy a new PSU.

With lower power consumption AMD have the opportunity to launch an even bigger card than the 6900XT using 96 or 100 compute units and even fit it with an AIO cooler making it smaller and faster than a 3090, NVidia may be a bit concerned.

 

[vapor matt]

Nvidia will be so miffed at having slower cards that they'll withdraw their cards from sale in protest.

You won't be able to buy one anywhere!

Perhaps they already did this lol poor supply of 3000 series cards will now cost NV even more with cancelled orders after the release of the 6000 AMD series. But i quite expect NV to release the 3080ti and most likely a Titan 3090 series to counter the 6000 AMD series of cards.
if AMD can stock the shelves with 6800XT cards on release they will clean up on the 3000 series cancelations through lack of supply. Nvidia would have dropped the ball with a 1 month plus release advantage.

great to see competition again, although i would like to go AMD this round i do use G-sync so do i really want the expense of monitor change just to run AMD card. decisions decisions, not something to rush, so new year for me before i look again at any advantages one holds over the other. Plus real world reviews of course.

 

[MissChief]

If people can’t buy 3080’s a price cut won’t do diddly. AMD have an open goal here for both Intel and nvidia. They just need to make sure they score both with enough stock of both to fulfil the majority of orders.

 

[Kelt]

Perhaps they already did this lol poor supply of 3000 series cards will now cost NV even more with cancelled orders after the release of the 6000 AMD series. But i quite expect NV to release the 3080ti and most likely a Titan 3090 series to counter the 6000 AMD series of cards.
if AMD can stock the shelves with 6800XT cards on release they will clean up on the 3000 series cancelations through lack of supply. Nvidia would have dropped the ball with a 1 month plus release advantage.

great to see competition again, although i would like to go AMD this round i do use G-sync so do i really want the expense of monitor change just to run AMD card. decisions decisions, not something to rush, so new year for me before i look again at any advantages one holds over the other. Plus real world reviews of course.

I'm in the same boat having a Gsync monitor, I'm not giving that tech up.

I was going to buy a 3080 this time around but at RRP, not a penny more, so that's ruled out.

Not impressed nor surprised at Nvidias VRAM paucity with the 3070 so won't be buying that either, and again, it's getting gouged, even before release.

So will be waiting a couple of years more and see what Hoppit brings to the table.
At the very least it will have more VRAM.

 

[jakspyder]

I canned a 3090 pre-order (it was silly anyway).

The 6900XT looks like it is spot on. I'm curious to see what nvidia on TSMC would bring, and if that node is just THAT good compared with samsung. The fact AMD are doing this on a much better power budget, and as such probably running cooler is amazing, just as with zen.

nVidia RTX and DLSS still seems to be better. But with consoles and AMD obviously supporting the open standards, i'm not sure how big those features will actually be. DLSS particulary.

As i understand it, all vendors have the SSD to VRAM direct stream/decompression, as this is a microsoft/OS level feature? and the 5000 AMD series + 6000 AMD GPU also have the "smart memory" allowing the CPU to directly address VRAM?

 

[NismoSXZ]

Anyone expect a similar "smart memory" being cross compatible? Waiting on a 5800x cpu and have preorder 3080 that i was planning to keep unless AMD release there 6800XT with good supply.

 

[Cooper]

I think anyone who is on a lengthy pre-order with a 3080 should cancel it.

There is just no way Nvidia will allow the 6800XT to go unchallenged, via a Ti/Super version, with 12GB VRAM, Yes it may mean you have to wait until early 2021 for your new & improved spec 3080, but so what?

 

[Quartz]

With lower power consumption AMD have the opportunity to launch an even bigger card than the 6900XT using 96 or 100 compute units and even fit it with an AIO cooler making it smaller and faster than a 3090, NVidia may be a bit concerned.

Until they do I still think it doesn't matter. If your GPU consumes 400W and you have an 850W PSU, you can still just plug it in and go. Now if you only have a 500W PSU, you'll have to buy a new PSU and that's additional expense so you'll pause.

 

[Aretak]

Anyone expect a similar "smart memory" being cross compatible? Waiting on a 5800x cpu and have preorder 3080 that i was planning to keep unless AMD release there 6800XT with good supply.

Very unlikely. AMD are the only company in a position to do it, with both high end CPUs and GPUs that they've developed alongside each other. Intel could possibly do something similar in the future, if their graphics efforts ever amount to anything meaningful.

 

[Nablaoperator]

I think anyone who is on a lengthy pre-order with a 3080 should cancel it.

There is just no way Nvidia will allow the 6800XT to go unchallenged, via a Ti/Super version, with 12GB VRAM, Yes it may mean you have to wait until early 2021 for your new & improved spec 3080, but so what?

No.. i disagree the 3080 is still a superior choice compared to 6800XT (provided you got it close to suggested prices)

Anyone expect a similar "smart memory" being cross compatible? Waiting on a 5800x cpu and have preorder 3080 that i was planning to keep unless AMD release there 6800XT with good supply.

Dunno.. zen 3 isnt looking like a good upgrade atm.
I was just doing some research on zen 3 cuz i thought it would be a good avenue to scratch my upgrade itch with graphic card supplies in the toilet
but i have come to the conclusion that it'd be better to wait for DDR 5 platforms next year
However, the smart access thing has some appeal

 

[TrM]

I think anyone who is on a lengthy pre-order with a 3080 should cancel it.

There is just no way Nvidia will allow the 6800XT to go unchallenged, via a Ti/Super version, with 12GB VRAM, Yes it may mean you have to wait until early 2021 for your new & improved spec 3080, but so what?

the 3080 and 6800xt trade blows across the board the 6800xt is no better. Why would nvidia cause damage to there reputation from bringing out another card when jenson said it’s safe to upgrade in his kitchen. The 3080 is where it needs to be bring stock levels up and watch 3080 sell more then the 6800xt for nothing more then being nvidia

 

[Troezar]

With lower power consumption AMD have the opportunity to launch an even bigger card than the 6900XT using 96 or 100 compute units and even fit it with an AIO cooler making it smaller and faster than a 3090, NVidia may be a bit concerned.

I could definitely see this being a thing, especially as there is a market for more expensive GPUs.

 

[jakspyder]

Dunno.. zen 3 isnt looking like a good upgrade atm.
I was just doing some research on zen 3 cuz i thought it would be a good avenue to scratch my upgrade itch with graphic card supplies in the toilet
but i have come to the conclusion that it'd be better to wait for DDR 5 platforms next year
However, the smart access thing has some appeal

I think a zen3 is a pointless upgrade for anyone with a 9/10 series intel or 3000 AMD for sure. Wait for the DDR5 platfroms from each vendor.

That said, if like me you're building from scratch, the 5000 series is a no brainer really.

To the other point about about 3080s. If you're long in the queue you're not getting a 3080 until 2021 anyway, may as well kill the pre-order and see if anything changes, price wise, if they can get an early TSMC Ti/super version out etc. If not, by january should be able to order a 6800XT or 3080 with a single click and next day delivery anyway. Benchies out, 3rd party cards in supply so you can pick the best one etc.

 

[kevman]

I could definitely see this being a thing, especially as there is a market for more expensive GPUs.

AMD must have been rubbing there hands when they saw the NV power draw figures being published. It allowed them to really push the cards to the max.

I can imagine the backlash if NV had been a 250W card and the AMD cards were 300W - more turbine heater memes. But AMD have come out on top

 

[IceWolf]

I think Nvidia will lower the price of the 3090 but not much else. The trouble is that it seems like the Radeon cards will get beaten in ray tracing but just about win in other gaming benchmarks: just like the 5700XT vs 2070 Super. There Nvidia were happy to sell their cards for a premium over AMD because they had RTX. I can see it being the same again here

 

[Shaz12]

I think anyone who is on a lengthy pre-order with a 3080 should cancel it.

There is just no way Nvidia will allow the 6800XT to go unchallenged, via a Ti/Super version, with 12GB VRAM, Yes it may mean you have to wait until early 2021 for your new & improved spec 3080, but so what?

The 6800XT is only faster if you pair it with an AMD CPU, otherwise it just trades blows with the 3080 and that's on AMD's cherry picked presentations which should be taken with a grain of salt. For those of us on i9 9900ks/10900ks, the 3080 is still better with much better ray tracing and DLSS support. I don't see any need for a Ti card at the moment.

 

[Shteve]

Not that I've paid much attention to it, but is their answer to this not RTX IO? Granted it's slightly different, but same goal?

No that's different. RTX IO is the card having direct access to fast storage ie an NVME SSD (which AMD also has under a different name). We're talking here about the CPU being able to directly access the GPU's memory.

 

[pp111]

It struck me that they already had some inkling. The reason I say that is that the latest NVIDIA cards seemed very large and very power hungry, and whenever that is the case it makes me wonder why.