HP ML110 G7 32GB RAM - Cashback

I am thinking about ditching and old NAS for the G7 subject of this thread and I am in need of confirmation ;) I am new to world of servers!

This is what I'd like to run:
PVR (MythTV FreeSAT)
File Server (Samba upnp etc.)
Web Server (Wordpress predominantly)
Printer Server (for one HP laserjet)

Shopping List:
HP ProLiant ML110 G7 G840 Tower Server
RAM expansion to 8GB Kingston Memory 4 GB DIMM 240-pin DDR3
SAT Card: TBS 6981 DVB-S2 Dual Satellite Tuner
Graphics Card: Nvidia GT520

Questions:

1)I researched the hardware side of thing and it looks fine. The only doubt would be the ability of the graphic card to feed both video and audio (HDMI) to my plasma and the compatibility of the Satellite tuner.

2)More importantly I am looking for help re the HDD configuration. The Proliant comes with a 250Gb hard drive that I will RAID 1 with my 250Gb HDD . Additionally I am going to add in the mix a 1Tb for PVR storage and I am thinking about an SSD as a boot drive. Any thoughts? Is it possible to leave the 1Tb and SSD out of the RAID?

3)OS: I am aware that MythTV can take care of both PVR and File Server but I am thinking that WHS will improve flexibility. It is possible to install both on the one server?
 
mcapri said:
1)I researched the hardware side of thing and it looks fine. The only doubt would be the ability of the graphic card to feed both video and audio (HDMI) to my plasma and the compatibility of the Satellite tuner.
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If your going to have this connected to a TV bear in mind the fan/hdd noise, this is designed/marketed as a business server not a home server so being able to put it near humans without offending their ears as they try to watch a movie or something wasn't a design consideration (NB I have the Xeon version the G840 version may be quieter)
 
"Fortunately" my living room is not the quietest place! But if things are really bad I'm going to buy a front end and move the server to ask as back end.

RAM; the G7 ships with 2Gb and I bought 2 x 4Gb sticks. What is the best configuration? I read somewhere that sometimes is better to remove the 2Gb instead that leaving it in to allocate 4Gb for each of the two cores.
 
mcapri said:
Graphics Card: Nvidia GT520
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Is that a single slot card? The G7 has a single PCI-E x16 slot and it's right at the bottom of the motherboard, so only a single slot card will fit. Otherwise I suspect one of the 8x slots will be just fine for video playback.
 
ubersonic said:
If your going to have this connected to a TV bear in mind the fan/hdd noise, this is designed/marketed as a business server not a home server so being able to put it near humans without offending their ears as they try to watch a movie or something wasn't a design consideration (NB I have the Xeon version the G840 version may be quieter)
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The Fan noise of the g840 is quite loud too. Definitely needs a replacement fan if you are going to have it in a living room
 
Does anyone know if these are going to, or currently support the new IvyBridge processors? I.e E3-1220V2 and E3-1230V2 etc etc.

They have been out for ages now, and all HP's rivals have updated theirs to IvyBridge.

I wonder if it will be a simple BIOS Update or whether HP will release a new server, hence all the deals on these??

Can anyone "in the know" comment?!
 
Hellsmk2 said:
The g7 is not at all loud. I have one sat next to the sofa that I never ever hear.
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If you do some googling you will find that....

- Inserting PCI-e cards activates the PCI cooling fan, and makes the others run loudly.


- When the room or ambient temperature is over 24DecC, the fans go crazy and loud.


Lots of people have been complaining. If you have no add-in cards and your environment is under 24DegC, its quiet as a mouse.
 
So what's the best deal on these at the moment? I need to implement a VMware Lab for my training and currently deciding between beefing up my current gaming desktop with more storage and RAM or buying a separate server.
 
Somebody is getting worried now ..... :confused: I'm already working on a Plan B if the server turns out to be too noisy.

The GFX is a single slot fanless card :0

I got the ML110 G7 from ****** for £129 (£229 - £100 cashback) but the price went back up. From previous offers I've noticed that the price tend to drop closer to the end of the cashback offer (end of the month).

Is anyone able to help with my RAM query?
"RAM; the G7 ships with 2Gb and I bought 2 x 4Gb sticks. What is the best configuration? I read somewhere that sometimes is better to remove the 2Gb instead that leaving it in to allocate 4Gb for each of the two cores. "
 
RAM sticks aren't really allocated per-core.

From the HP QuickSpec:

NOTE: For best performance, it is recommended that customer installs memory in identical pairs (Slots 1C and 3D are interleaving pair. Slots 2A and 4B are interleaving pair).
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DiscoDave said:
So what's the best deal on these at the moment? I need to implement a VMware Lab for my training and currently deciding between beefing up my current gaming desktop with more storage and RAM or buying a separate server.
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I would suggest going for the ML110 G7 or something like it. Have vSphere on it and then manage from your desktop machine. The ML110 will allow you to play with HP hardware and you can always source other HP hardware from ebay (raid controlelrs, fiber channel adapters etc) with less worries of it not working. There is a big second hand market out there.

It is either that or you will need to run VMware Virtual desktop / Sun Virtual box etc on top of your desktop OS or have a vSphere USB stick you plug in when you want to use vSphere but you would still need a second machine to administer the vSphere server from.

RB
 
I recently grabbed another ML110 G7 as it was on sale for £130 after cashback and that was just too good to pass up, however something puzzles me, this is the G840 version as opposed to my Xeon version, and according to the Intel ARK database the is no mention of the G840 memory controller having ECC support O.o
 
After a little additional research I am refocusing my effort on the Os side of things. At this stage I will forget any virtualisation and stick to Mythbuntu.

The idea is that PVR + NAS are the two main functionalities I require and without linux experience I am sure I'll have my hands full already.

Depending on the noise factor and speed I will look into SSD next. And at the bottom of the list the virtualisation option, the need for it may become apparent with the system up and running.

Thanks for your support guys.:D
 
ubersonic said:
I recently grabbed another ML110 G7 as it was on sale for £130 after cashback and that was just too good to pass up, however something puzzles me, this is the G840 version as opposed to my Xeon version, and according to the Intel ARK database the is no mention of the G840 memory controller having ECC support O.o
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The ML110 G7 uses a board probably centered around the C204 chipset (can someone please confirm as the tech specs just state C200 series) which supports ECC ram only (only the C206 supports both). Intel used to list the i3 as supporting ECC ram but removed the reference from ARK which I believe was a marketing move. If you look through the specs you will see...
ndependent, 64-bit wide channels, each accessing one or two DIMMs. The type of memory supported by the processor is dependant on the PCH SKU in the target platform.
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I know for a fact that my S1200BTL motherboard does not support non-ECC ram (I have tried) but it does support ECC ram. The board also supports the i3 and GXXX processors.

I have also tried an i3 in a Supermicro X9SCM-F (C204 chipset) with Ecc ram and compared the BIOS -> Memory details with those reported when I installed an E3-1230 v1 and they were identical.

Funnily it now seems the memory support for the C20x chipsets also seems to be missing from the ARK pages. Now I am not usually a conspiracy type person but it really seems like Intel are trying to hide the fact.

RB
 
ubersonic said:
I recently grabbed another ML110 G7 as it was on sale for £130 after cashback and that was just too good to pass up, however something puzzles me, this is the G840 version as opposed to my Xeon version, and according to the Intel ARK database the is no mention of the G840 memory controller having ECC support O.o
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Dont suppose you can mention where you got it from?
 
RimBlock said:
The ML110 G7 uses a board probably centered around the C204 chipset (can someone please confirm as the tech specs just state C200 series)
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Yes it's definitely the C204 on my board. The PCH chip has the product id BD82C204 - which is the C204.

Did anybody notice this getting very hot as it does not have a heatsink? I asked HP about it, but they actually said that it is normal.
 
Supported Memory

I have checked for compatible RAM at different memory vendors.

According to the HP user manual the ML 110 G7 supports unbuffered ECC, single- or dual-rank, 1066Mhz or 1333Mhz (PC3-10600E) DDR3 memory. It is very important to check all details, as there are quad-ranked unbuffered ECC 8GB sticks out there. I also had to double check the google shopping results as google tends to drop important parts of the spec, e.g. it also finds KTH-PL313/8G (buffered) when searching for KTH-PL313E/8G (unbuffered).

These are the compatible 8GB DIMMs that I found at Kingston's site:
http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search/?partid=KTH-PL313E/8G
http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search/?partid=KVR1333D3E9S/8G
http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search/?partid=KVR13E9/8HM
There is also a kit of two 8GB sticks: http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search/?partid=KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G

Crucial has memory that should also work in the ML 110. The following is a dual voltage 1.35V/1.5V 8GB stick: http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT102472BD1339

Hope this is useful for someone. I'm planning to order the generic KVR1333D3E9S/8G and see whether it works.
 
Does anyone know if a Dell PERC 5/i will work in one of these (ignoring cabling issues)?

Running ESXi and my current Dell host only supports 8GB. One of these looks like a sensible upgrade option and life would be easier if I can just transfer the RAID adapter.
 
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