HP Reverb G2 uk release date?

Not sure I mentioned this, but a lot of the Jan/Feb talk seems to be from HP Germany (Can't be sure 100% as I've not waded though everything) and not the pre-order partners like Bestware or SA. SA said that priority will go to the Pre-Order partners, as they didn't want to compete between them and HP for stock. Also, Germany, for example, had significantly more orders than the UK it seems - as a lot of other EU countries (including the UK bizarrely) were ordering from Bestware.

Most of that is speculation based on what I've discussed with others, including SA. Doesn't mean the Reverb will come any quicker, but I don't think the UK has as much of a problem - assuming we get the shipment that HP promised SA.

Here's hoping...

In other news, my 3080 FE turned up today and I am ready for the Reverb! Didn't think that would happen this way round! Woooo!
 
John Harris said:
Not sure I mentioned this, but a lot of the Jan/Feb talk seems to be from HP Germany (Can't be sure 100% as I've not waded though everything) and not the pre-order partners like Bestware or SA. SA said that priority will go to the Pre-Order partners, as they didn't want to compete between them and HP for stock. Also, Germany, for example, had significantly more orders than the UK it seems - as a lot of other EU countries (including the UK bizarrely) were ordering from Bestware.

Most of that is speculation based on what I've discussed with others, including SA. Doesn't mean the Reverb will come any quicker, but I don't think the UK has as much of a problem - assuming we get the shipment that HP promised SA.

Here's hoping...

In other news, my 3080 FE turned up today and I am ready for the Reverb! Didn't think that would happen this way round! Woooo!
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So here's hope.
Tho I have no idea when my Mid september pre order can be expected, things are too messy atm.

I'M not fully up to date with the 3080 delays, if ordered one now, is the wait long? Are people getting their cards now in bigger numbers? Or do they have significant production problems?

I have a 1070. I wanted to use the half res thing, but now people say it has the same frame rate. Not good.
Well at least I'll be able to look around in google Earth or something...
 
MartinAntal said:
I'M not fully up to date with the 3080 delays, if ordered one now, is the wait long? Are people getting their cards now in bigger numbers? Or do they have significant production problems?
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It's a complicated story with the 3080's. As far as I am aware, OC are the only ones offering a Backorder queue for the 3080's in the UK. But the queues are massive, they get very little stock and their communication is awful and confusing. Outside of joining a queue, they do pop up all over the place in small numbers, mostly. The exception was that yesterday, Nvidia's site opened up for Founders Editions of the 3080 for sale through their UK partner (Not OCUK btw) and they must have had 100's. Normally when ad-hoc cards appear, they are sold in minutes or seconds - but Nvidia must have been stockpiling!

If you ordered from OCUK, I think you're likely to wait until the new year - there are some cards that are moving faster (DO NOT choose a Gigabyte Eagle - in two months, only about 50 have shipped, with queues in the 1000's). Personally, I'd wait for the stock situation to be better and take a look at some of the competitors. Also, watch the Nvidia site very closely. I know that I and @Just-Dave managed to score an FE yesterday.
 
Zeeflyboy said:
“Key takeaway on shipping, they basically said that they tried to structure the shipments to be more of a bulk release but that didn't quite work out. They stuck to their statement that preorders will get their G2 in November or December, but said that the cutoff they promised (Sept 24) may or may not be fully achieved.
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That is precisely what I speculated above. I would expect some of the first batch units to slip a bit (not much) past December 1-st. It's nice to know HP hopes to deliver Batch 2 pre-orders before the end of the year. Fingers crossed, I hope it works out, but I would not be shocked if I get my unit in 2021.

It does seem as if getting a nextgen GPU to properly run a G2 before 2021 would be an even bigger challenge.

I have a rather pathetic RX480, so the chances of experiencing HL Alyx in a full-res G2 before 2021 are pretty slim for me. :(

I will be trying to snatch AMD 6800 XT, but it probably won't work, and I am not paying scalpers.

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_VWV_ said:
That is precisely what I speculated above. I would expect some of the first batch units to slip a bit (not much) past December 1-st. It's nice to know HP hopes to deliver Batch 2 pre-orders before the end of the year. Fingers crossed, I hope it works out, but I would not be shocked if I get my unit in 2021.

It does seem as if getting a nextgen GPU to properly run a G2 before 2021 would be an even bigger challenge.

I have a rather pathetic RX480, so the chances of experiencing HL Alyx in a full-res G2 before 2021 are pretty slim for me. :(

I will be trying to snatch AMD 6800 XT, but it probably won't work, and I am not paying scalpers.

_VWV_
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Problem is I'm doing 3d modelling and rendering work, and for some things I actually need Nvidia.
I see some people say the backlog is because Nvidia is artificially creating scarcity and waiting for the AMD cards to drop then flood the market. No idea if this is conspiracy theory territory or just ... accepted business decisions these days

The sad thing is I bought the newly released GTX 1070 here FOR vr, but ended up waiting so long it's not not even enough.
 
Sooooooo........MRTV was gushing over the G2 last night as usual, whereas F.Reality had a more tepid response. I think they both have some agendas there - but I also think they still make some good observations. There's nothing there that changes my opinion on the headset though.
 
John Harris said:
Sooooooo........MRTV was gushing over the G2 last night as usual, whereas F.Reality had a more tepid response. I think they both have some agendas there - but I also think they still make some good observations. There's nothing there that changes my opinion on the headset though.
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Yea. The problem with a lot of consumers/fans is they don`t want to hear the reality because reality is often `negative`. This creates a sort of crazy optimism in the face of what`s actually going on. In fact even after receiving a really bad product the hype propaganda can be so strong it takes weeks before the fanboy finally accepts he`s not got what was advertised, which of course, suits the company.

For instance, as much as I like MRTV, and I like him because he`s not constantly happy like a Cheshire cat for everything (nobody is constantly happy at everything unless they`ve been lobotomised), I can`t help but get the feeling he adverstised the G2 not for himself, but because he`s been "paid" to, in some way, and when you then later see him receive the proper G2 on time- Well it`s like he`s been rewarded for being a good advert. I know he says he doesn`t take money, but it doesn`t have to take money to get someone shilling. There are many ways to make someone biased to your product. In fact the 3000s fiasco and the utube reviewers there could be accused of the exactly the same thing. No common person got their GPU on time, but all the major u-tube reviewers did and more than one...

Then again, maybe the G2 is just THAT GOOD?

In my experience that`s very rarely the case...

I try hard not to be a fanboy of anything which means I tend to be on the cynical side. If i`m wrong- great. If I`m right to be cynical, then the hit is not hard.

So you kinda wonder what the real truth of it is. Unfortunately, nearly all the U-tube VR reviewers seem this way. I`ve toyed with becoming a cynical games/Vr reviewer myself, and to be completely independent, refusing all cakes from companies. Sure, I won`t get exclusives, i`ll have to wait, but I know I`d make quite a base from the honesty.

Anyway, I guess we will know when we finally receive the thing and then I`ll know what I really think.
 
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Well, the F.Reality podcast was trying hard to prop up Q2. Both they and MRTV say that tracking is a bit better on Q2 than on G2. The F.Reality go on to stress that these small differences are unlikely to be perceived by the majority of users (competitive hardcore gamers aside). They also went on to say that G2 has the best visuals and sound.

From this the conclusion for me is that G2 is the better headset to get (provided you can afford it), because better visuals and sound is something everybody would appreciate, while tracking is a bit tougher to notice especially for VR beginners.

However somehow F.Reality podcast arrives to the conclusion that Q2 is the one for beginners to get and that G2 is somehow a "missed opportunity". I sense a bit of bias in there, and an attempt to portray as if there are significant cons of G2 in comparison to Q2, but it just does not make sense to me.

Surprisingly VR Flight Sim Guy , who by his SIM nature is supposed to be G2 biased, has raised an important criticism, that other "hands-oners" seem to have missed. G2 appears to have insufficient room to adjust the head straps such that the device fits securely onto a small head. That's a big bummer right there. Indeed, you can't really try before you by at the moment, so if you are a tiny lady, it may or may not fit well. And children will have troubles too. It's a bit surprising for HP to have invested so much attention to other details, but dropped the ball on this one.

So whoever has a rather small head - tough luck for you.

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Q2 is half the price, and can be used wirelessly and standalone. I'd never have got a VR headset at the cost of a G2, whereas £300 is a lot more accessible. Think that's a pretty big positive argument for a beginner.
 
Unseul said:
Q2 is half the price, and can be used wirelessly and standalone. I'd never have got a VR headset at the cost of a G2, whereas £300 is a lot more accessible. Think that's a pretty big positive argument for a beginner.
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It is indeed, that's why I said "provided you can afford it". Standalone is a feature of Q2, as well as the built-in facebook controversy. If that's what the user needs, and the user is prepared to sacrifice a bit of clarity and sound immersion and perhaps comfort as well (Q2 is heavier), then Q2 it is, no contest. From a PCVR standpoint the argument in the FReality podcast just did not make sense to me. That's my uninformed opinion. :)
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It is indeed, that's why I said "provided you can afford it". Standalone is a feature of Q2, as well as the built-in facebook controversy. If that's what the user needs, and the user is prepared to sacrifice a bit of clarity and sound immersion and perhaps comfort as well (Q2 is heavier), then Q2 it is, no contest. From a PCVR standpoint the argument in the FReality podcast just did not make sense to me. That's my uninformed opinion. :)
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Yeah, but they're talking about beginners. £600 vs £300 to try out a completely new gaming environment.
 
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Yeah, but they're talking about beginners. £600 vs £300 to try out a completely new gaming environment.
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One can make an argument that you want to try the best visual and sound quality out there (that you can afford) to decide if VR is for you or not. Because if it's not, you sell it on ebay. How much will you then have ultimately paied to try VR? 60 pounds, maybe 70 at worst. Sure, it's money intensive, but it's likely you could get most of your moneys back, should you decide that VR is not for you.
Both headsets would require a beefy PC (for PCVR), so we are not talking about cash strapped people (at least I am not). Q2 would call for a decent wi-fi router or a link cable, perhaps an after-market padding for comfort, perhaps an extra battery (which would also balance the top heavy Q2). For most PCVR people it's not quite going to be 600 vs 300.
Perhaps a Q2 VR under a watchful eye of facebook is better than no VR at all. I am not decided on that one.
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That (for PCVR) bit, is again, a big reason why the q2 is better for beginners...

If you decide you love VR then yes, you can buy a decent router if you want to try virtual desktop (which is an option not offered by the G2 at all, so quite simply, any money spent is only a positive for the q2 here), or extra for comfort, or simply sell the q2 and by a g2 if you decide PCVR is all you want to do.

G2 will be a better PCVR experience. I have no doubt whatsoever of that, and almost certainly more comfortable and better audio out of the box. But if you tell the average person in the street that they can try VR for £300, without needing a computer at all. Or for £600 for a g2 and also need a computer worth an equal amount to get started (not even to get the most out of it). Which are they more likely to dip their toe in with? Which is the value proposition.

And lets be honest. The q2 is not half the quality of the g2, even ignoring it's wireless/standalone capabilities. Someone who gets turned off by what they see in the q2, is not going to be converted by the improvements from the g2. They might prefer it, they may weighing things up, but if they straight up don't enjoy the q2, I don't believe the g2 will convert them.

Sure. If Facebook scares you, and you don't use android/apple/whatsapp/firefox/chrome etc, then maybe the q2 isn't for you.
 
Personally I have pre-ordered a G2. Having gone from a DK2 to CV1 I am more than happy to jump in with both feet. That said, I just got a quest 2 as well. This is my 1st proper experience of inside out tracking and am blown away. I had to try to break tracking for it to break. In normal use it is fine.
Add to that the standalone feature and infinite tracking space, I too think the Q2 is the better unit for VR virgins. It is good enough to blow the minds of newbies and is much simpler to set up.
I also have more faith in Oculus tracking........ TLDR. For noobs I say go Q2, for PCVR Veterans go G2 and for VR obsessed (like myself) get both ;).

I also just sold my CV1 as I don't need 3 headsets.
 
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