I HAVE PROOF THAT WITH WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE IS CRAP

I had Windows 8 pro retail on my desktop. Have upgraded to Windows 10 and activated. Later on today i'm going to test this theory out on a spare laptop and install that 8 Pro retail on there and try to upgrade to 10 and see if it activates.
 
Drizmod said:
I had Windows 8 pro retail on my desktop. Have upgraded to Windows 10 and activated. Later on today i'm going to test this theory out on a spare laptop and install that 8 Pro retail on there and try to upgrade to 10 and see if it activates.
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Do me a favour, grab your MSDM key and if the setup asks for it input that key and see if it activates from there!
 
Has anyone who's got W10 installed on a virtual machine (Vmware Workstation) tried moving it to a different host? Did it trip the activation?
 
Trifid said:
Has anyone who's got W10 installed on a virtual machine (Vmware Workstation) tried moving it to a different host? Did it trip the activation?
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You probably require a new key for virtual machines. DO NOT install Windows 10 and try to activate it. It may block your hardware ID (no-one knows the implications of installing it in a VM yet) that I know of after research!
 
Ms has said all along it is a free upgrade for the life of the device.
They couldn't have been clearer on that point.
Over and over and over.
Changing the MB is a new device.
 
I have been looking into this whole topic a lot, trying to find a definitive answer. In response to the OP I would find it extremely unlikely that the Retail licenses don't remain as Retail licenses.

1st line Microsoft Support is pretty useless and I would trust the word of Andre Da Costa at Microsoft answers a lot more (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/c50ad32d-08a5-4273-a941-c353e43a5056?page=4). But of course we want actual facts!

I upgraded from a Windows 7 Pro Dreamspark (Retail) Key. Is the MSDM key the most likely way yet of finding that actual product key? I would like to give it a go.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Ms has said all along it is a free upgrade for the life of the device.
They couldn't have been clearer on that point.
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No, they could have been much clearer. They're still not clear. Their staff are clueless. Not sure why you think you know better.
 
I can't do it at the moment not beside my test machines at work, however... it would be good to see if we can input the MSDM key as a serial key on clean install and have it activated out of the box.

This will be the OEM key in the bios. I can't see it not working, however you won't need a key for OEM anyway as it uses the HardwareID to activate in the first place. I can only see this been required for motherboard changes.

BUT motherboard changes will more than likely invalidate the OEM activation and block the key. (only retail - but you get a key with retail anyway)...

EDIT: WE may no longer be able to use the phone activation method for OEM editions. (no confirmation) Once the motherboard dies... you might require a new version of OEM Windows 10...
 
thebennyboy said:
Is telephone activation even available for Windows 10?
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wildest_jjk said:
I have been looking into this whole topic a lot, trying to find a definitive answer. In response to the OP I would find it extremely unlikely that the Retail licenses don't remain as Retail licenses.

1st line Microsoft Support is pretty useless and I would trust the word of Andre Da Costa at Microsoft answers a lot more (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/c50ad32d-08a5-4273-a941-c353e43a5056?page=4). But of course we want actual facts!

I upgraded from a Windows 7 Pro Dreamspark (Retail) Key. Is the MSDM key the most likely way yet of finding that actual product key? I would like to give it a go.
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Just tried the .vbs method and this returns the same key as some of you guys ending HC**6.

Also tried the method from here: http://www.nextofwindows.com/download/WpKey.zip

All that returned was the standard key ending 3V66T. I've got no idea how to select MSDM? It just runs for me...
 
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