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How many tests does ORTHOS run through?!

It's on this now:

12 minutes 52 seconds

Test 5, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length.
 
AdladUK said:
No because the motherboard only shows the main core reading.

So you can't say the difference is 8, as you don't know what the motherboard would have said for the second core
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And you can't say the difference is 3 because you don't know the motherboad is reading from the first core. (in fact it is reading from neither core as its just a temperature probe near to the cpu and not on the cpu itself)
 
AdladUK said:
How many tests does ORTHOS run through?!

It's on this now:

12 minutes 52 seconds

Test 5, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length.
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It runs forever...lol. It just loads both cores 100% to see MAX temps.
 
oweneades said:
And you can't say the difference is 3 because you don't know the motherboad is reading from the first core. (in fact it is reading from neither core as its just a temperature probe near to the cpu and not on the cpu itself)
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Fair enough.

So take the average 21c to 24c = 3c, 21c to 29c = 8c

8c + 3c = 11c / 2 = 5.5c

5.5c still isn't way off. And that's worse case scenario
 
could you tell us what your room temperature is AdladUK? To you have a thermomitor handy?

You say you dont have heating on? What does the local weather forcast say the temperature is just now?

It is completly possibly your temperatures are accurate, but at the end of the day, only load temperatures mean anything. :)
 
weescott said:
could you tell us what your room temperature is AdladUK? To you have a thermomitor handy?

You say you dont have heating on? What does the local weather forcast say the temperature is just now?

It is completly possibly your temperatures are accurate, but at the end of the day, only load temperatures mean anything. :)
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Sorry dude I don't have a thermometer

Here is the local weather forcast:

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So why 16c was so out the question is beyond me
 
34C on load is quite impressive. If you consider my "previous" Gen chip (sig) runs 34C idle and on water!

Nice improvement, as technology matures :)
 
fini said:
In several different ways. Read the parts of this thread that are pertinent to AMD chips - they go into far more detail than I could bother typing out.
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They're still accurate to anything else out there, that the average user would use. DeltaC is always accurate, Tjunc always has some variation.

With dual and quad cores, it would be hard to measure with a probe due to variances with heat spread over a IHS, even if that IHS wasn't there, there is no way of 100% knowing each probe is only reading from each core due to there being no on-die markings stipulating where each core end/starts.
 
Mekrel said:
They're still accurate to anything else out there, that the average user would use. DeltaC is always accurate, Tjunc always has some variation.

With dual and quad cores, it would be hard to measure with a probe due to variances with heat spread over a IHS, even if that IHS wasn't there, there is no way of 100% knowing each probe is only reading from each core due to there being no on-die markings stipulating where each core end/starts.
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Very true.
 
You are right AdladUK. 16c in Bios is possible, maybe only a few degrees off if your PC is in a cold room like you say it is.

When I did air cooling all those years ago, it was good to have a case temperature less than 10 degrees over ambient. Given that, around 20c in bios temp is possible. Very roughly speaking mind.

Your PC won't be cooler inside than out - Period! But the conditions your PC is in cries out for the CPU to be overclocked. ;)
 
weescott said:
You are right AdladUK. 16c in Bios is possible, maybe only a few degrees off if your PC is in a cold room like you say it is.

When I did air cooling all those years ago, it was good to have a case temperature less than 10 degrees over ambient. Given that, around 20c in bios temp is possible. Very roughly speaking mind.

Your PC won't be cooler inside than out - Period! But the conditions your PC is in cries out for the CPU to be overclocked. ;)
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hehe thanks for backing me up :) And thanks for explaining the situation

I really don't want to overclock. I will eventually. But at the moment this PC is so precious to me that I simply can't bring myself to put it at any unnecessary risk.

That's why I chose AMD over Intel
 
Uh? Chances are you'd get similar or lower temperatures with a Core 2 chip (they're rated at 65W except the quads at 95/105W, that 6400+ is rated at 125W)
 
weescott said:
Your PC won't be cooler inside than out - Period! But the conditions your PC is in cries out for the CPU to be overclocked. ;)
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Do it. :p
Follow guides and use common sense (y'know don't whack the vcore straight up) And use temps as a guide - if load temps are acceptable, you shouldnt be bringing any harm to your system.

I had my 6000+ at 3.33, 1.45vcore and load temps of around 55'C.
 
Lightnix said:
Uh? Chances are you'd get similar or lower temperatures with a Core 2 chip (they're rated at 65W except the quads at 95/105W, that 6400+ is rated at 125W)
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I welcome owners of dual/quad core Intel chips to post their temps. It's strange no one has thus far actually.

My main core is still running stable at 23c/24c (within Windows)
 
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