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eidolon said:
From reading further up I understand that I'm gay because I drive a Mini.

Do you want to tell my girlfriend or shall I? She'll be devastated, she wanted kids and everything.
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Just do a Barrymore and don't tell her. Simple.

Nice car though, don't see any problem with the image of a mini at all. Not my cup of tea on colour, but hey.
 
[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
He didnt buy it not realising that some people think its a queers car.
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I know, amazing! He knew and he still did it! Which is what has me befuddled but may not have the next guy befuddled. Such is the rich tapestry of life.

[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here, but hey..

Firstly my first reference to you in this thread was a jovial swipe at the irony of your comment (ie come on, you can hardly comment about being all manly when driving when you've got a Golf hatch, it would be like me criticising a car for having 4 doors and a boot rather than being a Coupe), rather than pointing out HOW DARE ANYONE THINK THE CAR CAMP. It was of course only after you continued to hammer the point that the Mini is gay home that the thread went that way.
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I seem to be the one talking to a brick wall, as this is the third time that I've tried to point out to you the difference between 'not manly' and 'actually quite camp'.

[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
You might disagree - thats the beauty of opinions - but I personally beleive that commenting on a cars relative merits is a bit different to focusing purely on what it says about the driver.
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But what it says about the driver still counts. That in itself is a large chunk of the basis of Mini's marketing campaign, it bemuses me how you can you say it's not important. Do you see Mini adverts everywhere saying 'handles great, corners like a kart, has x suspension type and y chassis features' - no, you see them creating adverts that appeal to a particular demographic and type of character based almost exclusively on non-technical factors. Yet according to you, what a car says about the driver is practically irrelevant once they've purchased it.

[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
We are in a forum about cars and driving and you've actually told us nothing about what you think about the actual car and how it drives despite many, many posts in this thread. Do you not find that a little odd?
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Well I literally typed out a paragraph about how I vastly prefer the handling, grip, and neutrality under cornering of my car compared to the Mini, but deleted it as I thought it would just cause another line of debate about Golf vs. Mini.

[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
We'd probably not be having this discussion in quite this way had you instead said how much you hated the ride quality, or how you personally found the steering lifeless, or how you hated the way it looked (Without making the link to the owners sexuality - thats the crucial bit).
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If it was only me I might think I was being unreasonable, but it seems to be a commonly held perception. Would you be happy owning a car that the majority of people thought was for girls, no matter how great the handling?

[TW]Fox;16015292 said:
This is not true though, is it?

Consider this example - I had a choice of colours for the monitor I use at home. If it was only available in pink, I would not have purchased it. I dont like pink. This cannot possibly be because of what others would think given that nobody else is going to see a monitor in my study.

Therefore it is not the case to say if somebody who claims not to care about image would reject a pink car, they must therefore care about image.
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Nein. NEIN NEIN NEIN!! You wouldn't like a pink monitor because you have been brought up in a society where pink is for girls and blue is for boys. In Victorian times, pink was a boy's colour and you would probably have had pink underwear. Hence your like or dislike of a colour is all about cultural conditioning, which is derived from other people's perceptions, not about your inherent like or dislike of a certain colour.

What's amazed me most in all of this is your sudden righteous indignation at the OP being panned for buying a girl's car! Without having gone back to look for specific examples, I'm fairly certain that you've previously rubbished purchasing decisions based on non-technical factors, for example 'Oh noes people will think you're a chav'.

eidolon said:
From reading further up I understand that I'm gay because I drive a Mini.

Do you want to tell my girlfriend or shall I? She'll be devastated, she wanted kids and everything.
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Well now that you're no longer a man you can give her my number if you like and I can provide :p. I repeat, I am not saying you're gay because you're driving a Mini, I'm saying are you not worried that people will think you're gay or a hairdresser? I'm also saying it hardly feels solid inside, which was one of your criteria. It feels like one of those electric cars that kids drive round their parents' garden.
 
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[TW]Fox;16015584 said:
Fine, pretend its a green monitor or something. Infact don't bother, you've deliberately missed the point yet again.
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Blah blah blah I give up.

It'll just have to remain: I think it's slightly camp and would care, others think it's slightly camp but still don't care, some don't think it's camp at all, and others just like the car and don't care about the perception of others.
 
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Nice choice.

3 weeks ago i would have said no way to one, all a bit feminine...

However, BMW gave me one for a week until my 5 series was ready and after the initial shame, i loved it. I actually looked forward to driving to work... so now, would I consider one as a daily driver? Yes, damn right.. but most likely a JCW. :cool:
 
It seems to me (and I'd imagine most other posters) that Robbie G has an inherent hatred of [TW]Fox due to previous comments (presumably in Robbie G's "my new car" thread).

Since that point, Robbie seems to be on some kind of personal crusade to try and get one over on Fox. It really is quite tiresome Robbie. Please just let it go. What is it they say about arguing on the Internet again?
 
jamief said:
It seems to me (and I'd imagine most other posters) that Robbie G has an inherent hatred of [TW]Fox due to previous comments (presumably in Robbie G's "my new car" thread).

Since that point, Robbie seems to be on some kind of personal crusade to try and get one over on Fox. It really is quite tiresome Robbie. Please just let it go. What is it they say about arguing on the Internet again?
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Hmmm let's see how it went:

[TW]Fox;16011038 said:
I am loving that, great car :D
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Robbie G said:
Cheap looking plasticy retro-gash. Nice paint colour ofc and I like the seats, but the rest of it looks like a Fisher Price toy. That and it's a girl's car.

Each to their own though :p.
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[TW]Fox;16011380 said:
Should he have gone for a manly Golf 1.4? :D
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So without wishing to resort to 'he started it', he started it! It works both ways jamief and no matter how much you love the guy, you should probably be a little more neutral in your assessments.

Why would I hate Fox due to comments about my car in my new car thread, that I knew I would get, when all the opinions posted in that thread are each person's absolute right to hold, whether right or wrong? I wouldn't and I don't.
 
anticonscience said:
Robbie, Fox even said that was a comment in jest. :/
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When did he say that? Before or after I replied to it? In any case, even the most avid of Fox lover could see that it was a thinly veiled bait, irrespective of the fact that it was subsequently accompanied by 'It was a joke lol'.

Anyway that's nothing to do with it, I certainly didn't take that comment to heart and this ruck would certainly have occurred whether or not he'd posted that comment, as he would instead have picked me alone up on the fact that I called the car queer rather than the umpteen other people that said the same thing.

People are saying I'm following him around when entirely the opposite has occurred in this thread!
 
Robbie G said:
People are saying I'm following him around when entirely the opposite has occurred in this thread!
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For the record I don't think you follow me around at all.

The reason I made the original comment I did was that I found it particularly ironic, thats all :) It was quite obvious under what circumstances my comment was made - serious comments don't have smileys.
 
JAMAL said:
Some of us don't need to buy penis extensions.............
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Do some of you guys just post without thinking or what?

Where is there somebody in this thread arguing against the Mini who drives a car which could be considered a 'Penis extension'?

What went through your mind which resulted in you posting that?
 
Robbie G said:
It'll just have to remain: I think it's slightly camp and would care, others think it's slightly camp but still don't care, some don't think it's camp at all, and others just like the car and don't care about the perception of others.
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Thats the most normal thing said over the last 2 pages! :D

Who cares who it's marketed to, or who buys them, its a damn fine handling vehicle, I'd have one in a shot, if it werent for the cabin space/seating position. (Countryman looks interesting! NO HOMO!)
 
Jez said:
Hate it.

Not for the car itself you understand, but rather that Mini's are always owned by the type of people i absolutely bloody hate. Organic eating, cycling, sporty, new build house, into football cliché to the absolute max type of people.

I just think they are the epitome of a boring as above new build "fashionable" lifestyle.

Completely an irrational hatred, but i have really grown to loathe mini's :/
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There are a few colleagues at my work place with minis and I had this kind of image also, however non of them fit into this stereotype.

I too think they are abit girly but this is quite a manly grey colour. I just find the interior looks like it was designed by fisher price with all those big dials and knobs.

I say if it fits the bill then buy it, clearly something the OP has done, to not buy something that fits your needs based on peoples reactions would be completely stupid.
 
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