I'm not surprised that you picked a puerile example in an attempt to rebut the accusation that one minute you hate grey four pot hatchbacks, but as soon as they're made my BMW, you want to mate with them.
I have never stated I hate grey four pot hatchbacks. I have stated I dislike your car, which happens to be a grey four pot hatchback, but thats not the same thing at all. You might remember I once owned and was very happy with a nearly-grey 4 pot hatchback.
You have previously registered your dislike for grey hatchbacks with frugal 4 cylinder engines,
See above. I've not.
yet now all of a sudden you can forgive that because here is a car that's 'funky'? How many blokes do you know that buy cars "because they look a bit funky"?! Where they differ is that one is a pain in the arse (in more ways than one) and the other is not.
It's just a bit of a laugh. It's not the right car for you, neither is it the right car for me, but they are still pretty funky and you dont need to be a woman or gay to drive one.
Of course. It's clear that if a man buys a car that is perceived as gay / effeminate / camp / in many people's eyes, then this is valid factor for consideration (like it or not). I'm guessing the reason for your strong objection on this particular point is that your brother or Dad had one at some stage? I'm sure you had the usage of a Mini at one point, from a distant hazy memory...
Nobody in my family has ever owned a MINI and I don't have a brother. I've driven Mini's because there used to be quite a few of them on my local dealers loan car fleet. That is where my MINI experience ends.
An opinion different from yours does not make it stupid. The sooner you realise this, the sooner you can make the first step towards not coming across as a pompous arse, though I have a feeling that this course of action is not high on your list of priorities.
Your opinion isn't stupid because it differs from mine. There are many people here whose opinions are respected by many and which differ from mine.
Regarding the gearbox thing, the reason for the drop isn't my point. My point is that why didn't they use a decent auto that doesn't impact on fuel economy so much, in a car in which economy is bound to be important to so many of the buyers?
Because until very, very recently, such a box didn't exist?
You think its as simple as 'Oh, lets just use a better fuel economy auto lads!'.
You yourself have admitted that how others perceive your car is a very important part of the buying process for many people. For example, you stated brand image as one of the main reasons that people might purchase a 7 series instead of a Phaeton, yet suddenly other people's perception is irrelevant and silly just because it's a car that you think is funky? It's almost cringeworthy
Nobody is disputing image is important to many people. But eidolon has ALREADY purchased the car and has owned the same car before. Clearly the 'image' wasn't of concern to him because he's already bought it. It's not as if he didnt realise that before he purchased it, is it? What use is a thread full of OMG SUCH A GAY CAR? It's not a technical thing is it?
If he'd bought a Proton and people were posting about how unreliable they are, how they are dynamically compromised, etc etc its a tad different as anyone else reading the thread might be able to think 'Blimey, I was going to buy that...' but what possible use is CONSTANTLY reminding the OP that he's now a bender going to do?
It's the sort of discussion you'd find in the canteen at the local sixth form college.
Please get over this whole 'You only love it because its a BMW' thing, please. Everyone else knows thats not true so you only serve to make yourself look more ridiculous each time you post it. You won't see me praising X3's, for example.
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