Well, it seems that by downloading Ubuntu via torrent I have a hidden agenda?
I think I'm being sued...
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Well, it seems that by downloading Ubuntu via torrent I have a hidden agenda?
Don
It can make it faster, as torrents are peer to peer, every one will be uploading and downloading, depending on the amount of peers you connect too, the faster the download will be.
Soldato
Is he in jail yet?
Associate
In jail...its a civil case the worst is a fine and baliffs.
So you think if everyone bought/rented the games that the prices of said games would be less?
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a lot of official sites use Bittorrent technology to distribute it's software to save on bandwidth, many Linux distros are done this way as well as a lot of Podcasts as it saves a lot of money
Also if it's a very big file (linux etc) you can pause it and stop it for period of time, if you need to restart pc or use internet at full speed for something else.
Man of Honour
Care to take a guess at the percentage of bittorrent traffic which is legal?
I agree with him partly, you break the law and steal copyrighted material (whatever your ideological thoughts on the matter are, the law says it's not on) and you deserve to get fined if you get caught. It's the risk you take.
A few people have said in here that they're worried about downloading stuff now, well thats a win for record companies and the rest of them, it's exactly what they want.
I disapprove of piracy when it comes to music and film (as it takes talent and money, and people deserve to paid for it) but I'm a strong supporter of creative commons and open source stuff (even contribute a little) on the programming side.
Good luck anyway, the law firm in question I've commented on before, some of their tactics are very dubious.
The the law also says it's not stealing, so you shouldn't call it that if your using the law in your argument
Man of Honour
The the law also says it's not stealing, so you shouldn't call it that if your using the law in your argument
Copyright theft is a common term used in relation to contravention of the Copyright, designs and Patents Act, so yes, he can use stealing in a general sense
Burnsy
Copyright theft is a common term used in relation to contravention of the Copyright, designs and Patents Act, so yes, he can use stealing in a general sense
Burnsy
The actual term is "copyright infringement" or breaking/infringing the copyright law. You cannot just equate it to "theft". It being common term doesnt mean its accurate or right.
Man of Honour
In common usage you can. Theft/stealing as defined by the OED is "take (something) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it"
Isn't that exactly what a copyright infringement is?
Edit: even in a legal sense intellectual property is considered intangible property that can be stolen.
Burnsy
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No as you are not "taking" something, you are copying it, it is closer to forgery than theft.
For example f you steal a game from a shop, you are charged with theft, not copyright infringement, as after all if you are relating piracy like this to theft then you should be liable for both if you shoplift.
Also copyright infringement is a civil case, theft is criminal, so it shows the clear and separate degrees of seriousness.
Man of Honour
That's debatable. Depends on your definition of 'take', one of which is to "gain possession".
Creating an infringing article is a criminal offence under s.107 of the CDPA.
Burnsy
No. You can copy an idea, but you cannot "steal" it, since you're not depriving the other person of the said idea. If you copy the patented process to make a particular compound, it doesnt mean that the owner of that patent can no longer manufacture the compound. All you've done is to deprive him of royalties, which itself is the crime. There is a very important distinction to be made between the two.
Possession hasnt changed hands. Both now "possess" the said item, since there are now 2 items.
Man of Honour
Ok, I'll admit it isn't in the legal definition of theft which is very specific, but in common usage it's completely valid.
Burnsy
Soldato
Havent read too much of the thread so probably been mentioned but to the op couldnt you just buy the real game if youre paranoid and claim backup rights or summat? Or would that just not work?
Man of Honour
Havent read too much of the thread so probably been mentioned but to the op couldnt you just buy the real game if youre paranoid and claim backup rights or summat? Or would that just not work?
You're assuming you have backup rights
Burnsy