legend you might as well beat yourself over the head with something big and unwieldy than have a debate with him haha
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i9 9900k pricing
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That whole 'if you can afford it, buy it' argument is very hollow though. What is ACTUALLY gained from taking that approach, in a real world sense? That kind of mindset can't be reasoned with. Buying things for NO other reason than you can afford them is just nonsense. It may indeed be lots of fun for those that do, but it makes no logical sense and that kind of thinking has no place in a forum such as this. It's not a starting point for any discussion or debate on anything... it's a complete dead end.
Ha, it's not even a debate. Some people just don't see sense.
the thing is like what you like but because some people want the fastest people are not happy with that. then try and debate it. many like me for eg just want the fastest cpu for gaming. whats wrong with that ? its not a intel thing or a amd thing. we just want the best performance for our gaming. it can be hard to decyypher people on the internet and what they actually are like but you shouldnt be looking at the person just the cpu. gibbos said its flying selling well so obviously many people love the new chips and they selling fast. which is great news.
You have a habit of taking things personally it seems. No one is 'unhappy' that you want a fast CPU. People are unhappy at the pricing, because unlike you, most people care about value and don't like being ripped off. The 9900K is not good value... as you've already agreed. It offers a terrible performance/cost ratio, especially as you increase the resolution you game at. If you're at 4K, you aren't going to be much faster at all, and in many games will have identical frame rates to someone with a CPU half the price. That right there, those last two sentences I just typed (go on, read them again, just so you take it in), is looking at the CPU, not the person, not you, but the CPU and its performance. Get it?!
The fact you think it's "great news" that these CPUs are selling so well shows just how unbelievably out of touch you are. Are you an Intel shareholder? It's only great news for them. It's like money is literally no object to you, and no matter what a company charges, you will pay it, even if it offers a measly 1% over the alternative. This kind of thinking is beyond foolish.
they will sell well its new and shiny and people want the latest gear ,is an extra 20fps when your already gettin over 100fps really matter or will even notice when you have to go to such an expense to get the extra fps
Err, need I point out YET AGAIN that this thread is titled "9900k pricing"?? Clearly I do. I own a 2700X, not that this is relevant.
You think cost/performance isn't at all relevant (especially in a thread discussing price) and that paying a significantly disproportionate amount for performance vs what the alternatives offer is smart? Furthermore, what do you think this means for the future of CPU pricing? Do you have some sort of vested interest in this disproportionate amount of money being charged for measly performance increases actually becoming more skewed? Will you be happy if the successor to the 9900k is £1000 and offers 5% improvement? Is that acceptable to you, or perhaps more importantly do you think this is healthy for the industry as a whole? Or do you literally not care about a single thing in life other than having the best/fastest?
think intel and nvidia want a bit of the apple business model and its only going to get worse pandoros box has been opened lol if intel feel they can get away with it and poeple keep buying them in droves or "flying off the shelves and that is great news" as you put it dg id say it was a nail in the coffin long term for the pc gaming industry people are getting sick off the milking by intel if you are happy to be bent over the desk by intel thats ok but dont keep banging on how great they are you sound like an intel shill they should pay you if they are not already lol
it explains it all. i understand now why all you talk about is value. the 2700x is a great value chip.
if the next chip is faster probably get it.
Get Kaapstad to do a 9900 Roll of honour thread for the usual epeen
I wanted the fastest. Was sad to see the price at what it was. I was addicted to pc's very early on and in my teens would spend £500 on a new cpu and it was a lot more often then. These days I have more disposable income and no other vice. As sad as I was to see the 9series prices, it only equates to about £5 per week since my last cpu upgrade. That's the way I look at it. Would rather it was cheaper, but in the end my addiction to computers and the latest tech is a lot cheaper than many things that brought me joy in the past and present. Minus travel, this computers trump the lot.
Edit* I would not recommend at this price to my friends.
Edit* I would not recommend at this price to my friends.
No reason in particular, what's the best value/performance ratio intel wise? I did consider the 8700K at one point.
It's equally annoying reading the same old posts re the fastest product being overpriced. It's as if they imply Intel is one of few business to operate this kind of model when in reality, just about every single business in existence operates on the same model. That is, you want the best, be prepared to pay for it even if the gains are marginal. You want the best with little competition? Then it's made worse, just look at nvidia milking 2xxx series.
You question if the same people get headaches or worse when they look at the value you get from other tech related products. I suggest to them never to look at the value and costs associated with camera lenses, I fear heads may implode at the marginal gains
Edit - what happens in their head when they see a piece of plain clothing that's designer label for three times the price of a virtually identical piece of clothing with no designer label. Are they still alive after seeing said pricing disparity?
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Well done on completely ignoring the actual content of the post, I was referring to the CPU being called amazing when there have been no amazing CPU's from any of the major CPU suppliers since the 2500K, G0 Q6600, E6300-6800, etc. As you can see no competition is needed to make amazing CPU's
Also as I already said if they wanted to call this amazing they should have been first to market with something we'd never seen before, like the Q6600, but this is not it, it's just a reaction to compete in the market place against an already existing product stack.
You understand nothing as you didn't even enquire what resolution I'm at. As I'm at 4K, the 2700X is a great chip FULL STOP! A 9900k would be an absolutely pointless 'sidegrade' for me and a complete waste of money. In fact, my 2700X truly is amazing, as it can keep pace with a CPU that's twice the price!
AMD fanboys really do suck any enjoyment out of buying anything non AMD.
Clearly the points have been made that the 9900k is not good value, does it have to be made over and over and over again, especially from the same people. There's making a point then there's thread spoiling and trolling.
Clearly the points have been made that the 9900k is not good value, does it have to be made over and over and over again, especially from the same people. There's making a point then there's thread spoiling and trolling.
2700x. Done.
Dg, i'm curious at the point where you could no longer justify the price increase. If a new processor came out tomorrow and offered 3% more frames at 1080p for £700, would you consider buying it? What about one that was £800 and offered 5% higher frames @ 1080p? 6.5% @ £900?
There must be a point where value/dimishing returns comes into the equation. If you had millions in the bank I might understand always being able to justify going for the best performance part but price/performance and total cost are the most important considerations people will make when buying components.
I'm not sure what resolution you game at but as you want the latest and greatest i'm assuming you have or intend to buy 2080 Ti? The performance gains moving to a 2080Ti SLI configuration can be quite pronounced at 1440p/4k. Is this something else you're considering and if not, why not?
There must be a point where value/dimishing returns comes into the equation. If you had millions in the bank I might understand always being able to justify going for the best performance part but price/performance and total cost are the most important considerations people will make when buying components.
I'm not sure what resolution you game at but as you want the latest and greatest i'm assuming you have or intend to buy 2080 Ti? The performance gains moving to a 2080Ti SLI configuration can be quite pronounced at 1440p/4k. Is this something else you're considering and if not, why not?