If the worst came to the worst and things escalated

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ianh said:
Yet another prime example of item number 4 on my list, you just can't make this stuff up :D.

People nowadays just seem so programmed to "react" instantly to buzzwords but they rarely ever actually read and comprehend a whole post first before reacting. It could be that there's too many words to read in one go in these modern "say everything in 280 characters or less" or "a 1 min video is too long" twitter/tiktok times or maybe it's just that reading big words is hard for some, however thats just an opinion. Sadly I don't know what the issue is with the lack of basic reading comprehension nowadays, nor how to fix it but I'm guessing rule number 3 might be incoming next.
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You're guilty of doing the exact same thing, you're no better than the rest of us.

Are you willing to take part in the discussion?

You quoted someone who has claimed biolabs are a reason for Russia bombing Ukraine. Your actual quote of that posters comment (the one I replied to) is that person suggesting NATO actions have caused Russia to attack (liberate?) Ukraine. If you're not in agreement with that person, why did you quote them?

Once again, if Russia is concerned about NATO and has therefore decided to act, what use is bombing Ukraine's infrastructure? Is it to drive out Nazis? To punish NATO? To punish Ukraine? Are you at least able to clarify this? What am I missing?

If you aren't in agreement with the post you quoted then you've successfully derailed the thread for no reason, which is pretty much what you've been moaning about in your posts. Typically when you quote someone as asking a difficult question, ending with a :D it suggests (everyone interprets things differently) you are at least in agreement with them to some extent. If you weren't, why didn't you answer the difficult question yourself, rather than go on a rant... surely you'll admit it was a rant?
 
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Bluecube said:
Just checking in - OP still hasn’t posted again. Russian bot succeeds in sowing dissent amongst Western population and identifies forum members that rely on further Russian bots for their ”news”.
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So there are Russian bots out there whose job it is to identify forum members that get their news from other Russian bots ? Jesus is this how far we have fallen on these forums lol.

Anyway...

Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean you lot should be angry, we all want what is best for the Ukrainian people.

I heard UK Conservative MP Iain Duncan Smith say something that's shocking is that the number of Ukrainian military committing suicide now as a result of battlefield stress is astonishing.
I mean it must be so so bad if politicians in other countries are this shocked at the suicide rate of your soldiers, he described the figure as astonishing. This is a country that played a large part in world war 2 and seen massive loss of life yet these politicans are shocked... Are we talking thousands maybe tens of thousands?

Now I know some of you must be thinking maybe he is getting his information from Bluecubes Russian bot and maybe we can sponsor another Russian bot to out him, but no he actually made this statement in the house of commons after he visited a military hospital near Kharkiv, so we know his comments come from a place of concern.

https://www.politics.co.uk/parliame...-suicide-due-to-war-stress-says-duncan-smith/



Now I get it some of you don't trust me, after all I was one of those people that wanted Ukraine to take a peace deal where Ukraines borders remain the same as to prior to 24 Feb 2022 invasion and to be honest I still believe that's the best they could have got.

Let us hope you are all right and Ukraine can take Crimea but I will be honest with you, I would have to be smoking some seriously strong stuff for my mind to be that warped. Hmmm maybe still not, I think it would have to be a cocktail of stuff.

Slava Ukraini!
 
Now I get it some of you don't trust me, after all I was one of those people that wanted Ukraine to take a peace deal where Ukraines borders remain the same as to prior to 24 Feb 2022 invasion and to be honest I still believe that's the best they could have got.
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You had me at 'some', comrade.
 
Amnesia said:
So there are Russian bots out there whose job it is to identify forum members that get their news from other Russian bots ? Jesus is this how far we have fallen on these forums lol.

Anyway...

Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean you lot should be angry, we all want what is best for the Ukrainian people.

I heard UK Conservative MP Iain Duncan Smith say something that's shocking is that the number of Ukrainian military committing suicide now as a result of battlefield stress is astonishing.
I mean it must be so so bad if politicians in other countries are this shocked at the suicide rate of your soldiers, he described the figure as astonishing. This is a country that played a large part in world war 2 and seen massive loss of life yet these politicans are shocked... Are we talking thousands maybe tens of thousands?

Now I know some of you must be thinking maybe he is getting his information from Bluecubes Russian bot and maybe we can sponsor another Russian bot to out him, but no he actually made this statement in the house of commons after he visited a military hospital near Kharkiv, so we know his comments come from a place of concern.

https://www.politics.co.uk/parliame...-suicide-due-to-war-stress-says-duncan-smith/



Now I get it some of you don't trust me, after all I was one of those people that wanted Ukraine to take a peace deal where Ukraines borders remain the same as to prior to 24 Feb 2022 invasion and to be honest I still believe that's the best they could have got.

Let us hope you are all right and Ukraine can take Crimea but I will be honest with you, I would have to be smoking some seriously strong stuff for my mind to be that warped. Hmmm maybe still not, I think it would have to be a cocktail of stuff.

Slava Ukraini!
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Most people don't agree with your giving away lands as a result of an illegal foreign grab.

Your fringe position is unreasonable even if the foreign power was reaosnable (not sure how that could ever really be but lets assume it is). Russia is completely any utterly untrustworthy, on one with any sense believes that they would stop there.
Part of that deal prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, so Russia could simply rearm and come back for me.

Would you agree to carve off a section of Kent if enough immigrants took hold of a chunk of it?
 
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But the US & UK government does get to dictate what countries do what?
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If it's done politically and culturally, yes.

Russia are just terminally jealous that they lost the global influence battle over the ex soviet states after the break up of the union.

They have now had to resort to war to get what they want, and they aren't even doing that very well.
 
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Hagar said:
Skimming the latter part of this thread, the worst has come to the worst.
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If nothing else it demonstrates nicely how modern society is getting in the way of Darwinism.

So many total ****ing idiots spouting utter ****ing nonsense who would have died a thousand different ways in the past from their own stupidity.

Yet now we keep them alive with modern medicine so they can spew conspiracy nonsense all over the internet and regurgitate Russian lies on internet forums, all the while pretending they're not a Troll or Russian Sympathizer.

It's utterly pathetic.
 
Devilman said:
If nothing else it demonstrates nicely how modern society is getting in the way of Darwinism.

So many total ****ing idiots spouting utter ****ing nonsense who would have died a thousand different ways in the past from their own stupidity.

Yet now we keep them alive with modern medicine so they can spew conspiracy nonsense all over the internet and regurgitate Russian lies on internet forums, all the while pretending they're not a Troll or Russian Sympathizer.

It's utterly pathetic.
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Too many idiots, not enough villages ;)
 
sigma said:
You're guilty of doing the exact same thing, you're no better than the rest of us.

Are you willing to take part in the discussion?

You quoted someone who has claimed biolabs are a reason for Russia bombing Ukraine. Your actual quote of that posters comment (the one I replied to) is that person suggesting NATO actions have caused Russia to attack (liberate?) Ukraine. If you're not in agreement with that person, why did you quote them?

Once again, if Russia is concerned about NATO and has therefore decided to act, what use is bombing Ukraine's infrastructure? Is it to drive out Nazis? To punish NATO? To punish Ukraine? Are you at least able to clarify this? What am I missing?

If you aren't in agreement with the post you quoted then you've successfully derailed the thread for no reason, which is pretty much what you've been moaning about in your posts. Typically when you quote someone as asking a difficult question, ending with a :D it suggests (everyone interprets things differently) you are at least in agreement with them to some extent. If you weren't, why didn't you answer the difficult question yourself, rather than go on a rant... surely you'll admit it was a rant?
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and that highlighted section of this quote folks of the OcUK forum shows EXACTLY why we can't have nice things in here.

I mean just the sheer lack of intelligence on display to say "If you're not in agreement with that person, why did you quote them?" is amazing but not surprising, considering both they and I have quoted each which, in their own words, must mean we both agree with each other, showing their utterly broken logic. It also shows something else too, notice they never said at any point whether I actually WAS in agreement with the person I was quoting. I mean you can actually see the exact point where they start to invent things in their own head, amazing :D

Anyway, you're right about one thing, this is distracting from the thread and, frankly, I won't waste any more time on you and your made-up imaginary reality.

This next bit you won't read (again) because now you're too confused and angry so it's for everyone else really - Sigma in their own words have just shown to everyone that they followed what I said would happen in Rule 4 exactly to the letter, that I should - "never, ever defend peoples right to ask a difficult question in here, because that automatically also makes you "pro-something they don't like" - and then they've again shown to you all that after following Rule 4, where in their own mind (but not in reality) I am now "pro-Something they don't like", they quickly jumped straight onto Rule 3 and - "made things up and then argued about the things you made up, none of which I've actually said" - which is why they can't quote my post with proof of what they have invented in their own head and what the highlighted section of the quote above shows.

@GIBURROWS - You see, this is what I meant by "don't ask difficult questions" :)
 
I'm genuinely lost here :o not angry, just confused, very confused.

I accept that you weren't in agreement with the post. I'm still not sure why you quoted it though. I don't think you're pro Putin or a nazi. Does that help to clarify things?

Perhaps I did misunderstand your post, why can't you clarify it, in simple terms?

Ask as many difficult questions as you want to? Who's stopping you? I asked a question in return but nobody has answered it. Somewhat ironic?
 
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I have a difficult question to ask. If Russia is afaird of/annoyed by NATO aggression, what does bombing Ukraine do to reduce aggression? Or is the intention not to reduce aggression but to escalate?
 
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ianh said:
and that highlighted section of this quote folks of the OcUK forum shows EXACTLY why we can't have nice things in here.

I mean just the sheer lack of intelligence on display to say "If you're not in agreement with that person, why did you quote them?" is amazing but not surprising, considering both they and I have quoted each which, in their own words, must mean we both agree with each other, showing their utterly broken logic. It also shows something else too, notice they never said at any point whether I actually WAS in agreement with the person I was quoting. I mean you can actually see the exact point where they start to invent things in their own head, amazing :D

Anyway, you're right about one thing, this is distracting from the thread and, frankly, I won't waste any more time on you and your made-up imaginary reality.

This next bit you won't read (again) because now you're too confused and angry so it's for everyone else really - Sigma in their own words have just shown to everyone that they followed what I said would happen in Rule 4 exactly to the letter, that I should - "never, ever defend peoples right to ask a difficult question in here, because that automatically also makes you "pro-something they don't like" - and then they've again shown to you all that after following Rule 4, where in their own mind (but not in reality) I am now "pro-Something they don't like", they quickly jumped straight onto Rule 3 and - "made things up and then argued about the things you made up, none of which I've actually said" - which is why they can't quote my post with proof of what they have invented in their own head and what the highlighted section of the quote above shows.

@GIBURROWS - You see, this is what I meant by "don't ask difficult questions" :)
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Oh of course but I'm a Russian bot(beep bop boop) & because I don't get my news from some TikTok influencer I must be Hitler.

I love some parts of this forum as it has taught me so much about computers and photography but when it comes to politics "people" are so closed off and weak minded.
 
GIBURROWS said:
Oh of course but I'm a Russian bot(beep bop boop) & because I don't get my news from some TikTok influencer I must be Hitler.

I love some parts of this forum as it has taught me so much about computers and photography but when it comes to politics "people" are so closed off and weak minded.
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It's a shame we're still struggling to teach you the difference between Hostile Expansion (Russia Invading Ukraine) and a Defensive Coalition that countries join by choice.

It seems we're still having trouble getting you to understand that, when you ask such basic (and repeatedly addressed) questions such as "Does anyone think NATO / US is to blame for Russia becoming aggressive?" (Paraphrasing)
 
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skipper847 said:
This is covid forum all over again attacking 1 person because view is different.
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Eh stop acting like a victim. Smooth brain thoughts have consequences and people will challenge wild claims, if people can’t back them up (usually the case) then they rightly deserve the **** they get.

If it happens over and over again maybe it’s not us that’s the problem.


Ian causing derailments as usual.

Be nice if we could get back on topic rather than listen to all these whining victims who “get attacked all the time”.
 
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Allnamestaken said:
Eh stop acting like a victim. Smooth brain thoughts have consequences and people will challenge wild claims, if people can’t back them up (usually the case) then they rightly deserve the **** they get.

If it happens over and over again maybe it’s not us that’s the problem.


Ian causing derailments as usual.

Be nice if we could get back on topic rather than listen to all these who whinging victims who “get attacked all the time”.
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As said be carful what you want it might be your turn one time because you dont agree with something. But yeah i did have have replies but people only saw what they wanted. But yeah get back on topic.
 
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