IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Anounnced with 128 player multiplayer

I've no idea, I have defintely shot down AI fighters before (much to my disgust considering how much like hard work it was) and the way the bombers were flying indicates that they were AI as they were far far too precise to have been human controlled.

I'll see if I can get hold of a basic online mission with AI flights as well later on, it really is about time we had a play :)
 
Ok , just had a quick look online and I joined the ATAG server of which you speak
it is Not a coop server it is Dog fight server
 
There is no difference anymore, the only difference between the current way it works and the old way is that you don't get to sit in a coop ready room waiting for everybody to be ready and can instead form up on the actual airfield.
 
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There is no difference anymore, the only difference between the current way it works and the old way is that you don't get to sit in a coop ready room waiting for everybody to be ready and can instead form up on the actual airfield.
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Ahh , so that is the difference ,
are there any missions with for example red or blue only selectable slots for players ,
as in one side could be human other could be AI ?

Does anyone know of any good coop missions for COD that they could recommend to download?
 
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I think not. If I put together a vid of all my deflection kills (without exploding ammo) will you call me the best player too?
 
I have not seen anybody more deadly in IL2:CLOD than MK.Mr.X :)

Watch his other vids - he's pure poison with machine guns only 109E1 as well.

He has very good "lessons" videos on IL2:CLod as well - I really liked this one for instance (how to loose a guy with energy advantage who is on your six)

 
Nope, not impressed at all, sacrificing an substantial energy advantage to finish an already damaged spitfire when he could have easily retained it is not good skills. Unless of course he has done it on purpose for the sake of education but I don't speak Russian so don't know and can only take it on face value, which is poor. My old squadron leader would have torn him a new one for that stunt.
 
Should be a beta performance patch out in the very near future to sort out some of the issues such as CTD's that some people have online.
ATAG server is currently the best place to fly.
If you notice with a lot of MK.Mr.X's kills his oponents are lower, possibly just taken off with low E, and he's pounced on them.
 
Yup, eagerly awaiting the patch here, been dipping into ATAG a little, must get around to joining their teamspeak server too so I can get properly involved.
 
Yes, ATAG teamspeak is great, and they have a handy link in TS that starts ClOD, bypasses a lot of the menu screens, and puts you straight into the server!
 
Guys im just downloading rof Free what does the iron cross editon give that the Free version doesnt have ?

Wouldnt mind picking up cod also if its on offer still ? To play some co-op with U Guys it both games can still be got for cheap ?

Only Really played wings of prey before, which i enjoyed. Would i get on with both these games ?

I have a saitek cyborg ff stick and an old ms stick in a box somewhere ? Either of thete ok
 
Iron Cross edition just has more aircraft for you to fly, that is the only difference, you can add more as and when you want to either version.



Cliffs of Dover collectors edition can be had for under £20 here: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/e...ik:_Cliffs_of_Dover_-_Collectors_Edition.html Not sure what download prices are at the moment but no doubt it'll be on sale again before long if it isn't currently.

They are both vastly more complex that Wings of Prey, and both vastly more demanding of pc hardware too so don't expect that nice slick 60fps that you got in Wings of Prey in either of them unless you have a beast of a system.

A stick is a stick, as long as you can map basic controls to it you'll be good to go :)
 
MK.Mr.X looks like a competent pilot, but by far not the best. Leaves himself way too open for a wingman counter.

Squadrons like HO101 and VoD, VVS and plenty others (if they are still active) would rip him a new one. :p

Dogfights are primarily about preservation, secondary is taking the other guy out. :)

Some of the most amazing sorties I had in virtual wars in IL2, I didn't fire a single round. Intense evasive manoeuvres for 10mins+ as the superior BF109-G6s tried their best to take me and my wingmen out in our comparitively crap Yak9-Ds. Meanwhile a few clicks away our bombers decimated their ground forces, meaning we won, even though we didn't down a single enemy aircraft :cool:
 
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Yeah, in that video he specifically wanted to show what to do if you get into a situation where you dive, kill and get get a guy with higher energy on your six. I thought the way he dealt with situation was really expertly:)

Like I said- he has a whole bunch of videos - training or just flying and getting kill after kill after kill. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29379

And flying by the book is not necessarily the way of great pilots. For example, see what true old master 154_Fritz did at this years' IL2:1946 championship
( At 0:58 - he is doing reall cool pre match warming up :)), at 2:33 is the match itself
http://twitch.tv/dip78/b/291077140

He specifically lets opponent to go for higher altitude/energy, and yet he is the one who completely dominates - 3 passes- kill, 3 passes- kill, 3 passes -kill ...

My absolute favourite IL2 match - also with 154_Fritz: The semi-final match (it has two halves, each half is "first to 2 victories more than opponent", opponents fly identical planes chosen by one of them in the first half and by the other in the second.)

The match starts at 0:28, second half of the match starts at 21:36.

http://twitch.tv/dip78/b/291955955

Once again, very unorthodox, very unpredictable moves by Fritz. As they say "rules are for fools and guidance of others";) Squad leaders are right to rip a new one for beginners "breaking the rules of the book", but what would they say to Fritz?:) (Probably something like: "I've no Idea what you're doing mate, but its amazing" haha:)

Anyway! Waiting for the patch for Il2:CLod, it cant be far, surely!:)
 
Tactics becaome tactics for a reason, he'd still get a new one as he is still putting himself at unneccessary risk by his technique. If he can be that dominant at an energy disadvantage then why, other than showboating, would he ever put himself in such a situation? How many deaths online did he have attempting to master his ability to do this? It's all too easy to forget that we as virtual pilots generally have far far more experience than 90% of the real pilots who were actually putting their lives on the line, it gives us a very large scope to experiment because it doesn't matter to us.

It is the one aspect of simulations that really destroys the immersion for me, far too many people gaming the sim and not running for home when anybody in real life would have done so, I and my squad always put survival above anything, it made for a far better experience in my opinion.
 
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If he can be that dominant at an energy disadvantage then why, other than showboating, would he ever put himself in such a situation?
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Because it's not done for showboating (I really recommend watching Fritz videos - great aesthetic pleasure to watch this guy fly, even my gf watched the semi final its entirety), Fritz did it to lure an opponent into a position. And also Fritz was always leaving himself a plan B- energy disadvantage or not. Like in chess - you give up a queen, your oppnent is laughing at you, and 3 moves later he gets checkmate'd:)
 
1v1 tournament play is a different world entirely to what I'm talking about. The best pilots do not even enter those tournaments! :)

Fritz wouldn't fly like he does in those tournaments if he was flying in a VW. It just wouldn't work. He would be flying low, whilst everyone else would just leave him to it and get on with the mission, from up high, well outside of his reach.

JG_5, VoD, HO101, D13th and others are great squadrons for formation dogfighting. Notice I am dropping names of Squadrons and not individual pilots here. Teamwork is the key to epic victories/dogfights in VWs/on servers, not a set-up level playing field 1v1.
 
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1v1 tournament play is a different world entirely to what I'm talking about. The best pilots do not even enter those tournaments! :)

Fritz wouldn't fly like he does in those tournaments if he was flying in a VW. It just wouldn't work. He would be flying low, whilst everyone else would just leave him to it and get on with the mission, from up high, well outside of his reach.

JG_5, VoD, HO101, D13th and others are great squadrons for formation dogfighting. Notice I am dropping names of Squadrons and not individual pilots here. Teamwork is the key to epic victories/dogfights in VWs/on servers, not a set-up level playing field 1v1.
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Teamwork is very important, but we also talk and remember about the Red Baron, Voss, Guinemere (apparently he loved flyign by himself), Marseille, Hartmann, Kozhedub... =FB=Viks, 154_Fritz etc...

But all were part of squads - notice the 154 and =FB= for example;)

Kinda like football is a team game, but you'd always want Messi on your team:)
 
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