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Image quality Plus speed is reason enough to go 8800.

easyrider said:
Broke in just like a wild stallion :D

Easyrider

rides away!

Easy rider please DO NOT take this to offense in any way, I frequently read your posts as we must obviously post on the same threads. I am just really curious to how old you are, sometimes I think like 17 then others i think like 35 or older???

PS I agree with what you saying about the 8800GTX as just under a year ago I got the x1900xtx to replace my 7800gtx of course the GTX was doing fine BUT the XTX did far better and so could ramp up settings/res further improving the look and yet still improving the frames.

At that time the x1900xtx was released before the 7900gtx and I don't wish I waited for the 7900gtx as it was not what it was hyped up to be, this could easily be the case with R600? But then again something tells me you'll prolly just change card neways if it does turn out to own the 8800gtx;)
 
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I dont udnerstand when people say "ooo I could never spend so much on a gfx card....£500 is mad etc"
or that you could buy the shopping for a year on that or go on holiday to the moon

what the hell do you do with you money and where do you work?

I live with my gf, I pay rent, I buy food, we go on holidays, i go to the pub several nights a week, i pay bills, electricity, water etc, we have 2 cars to run...
I also do airsoft (bb guns) which the guns are not cheap £300+ plus upgrades...

yet we can manage to keep our comps up to date (yep, my gf too)

My comp IMO is looking a bit dated now (see sig) it might be fine for some people but as soon as they are released i'll be buying a quad core intel chip, 2 gig of ddr2 and a new mobo
then maybe the next month a new psu in preperation for purchase of a really nice tip top dx10 card when its closer to dx10 release date time
o and another monitor just so I can dual screen supreme commander

how come I can afford it and the rest of you cant? I dont earn that much, im only an IT tech

if you cant afford the latest tech, dont bitch about it saying its pointless just coz your jealous or something
 
Athanor said:
The G80 isn't just for posing, it produces real and tangible benfits over older cards, and, unless you have a top of the range DX9 card (for want of another way of classing it) it makes a stunning upgrade for most people.

Of course its not just for posing, it's not a hat. But when inflammatory remarks such as
easyrider said:
Stop justifying having old tech.

Things have moved on.

and

easyrider said:
It's not my fault you haven't got one.


are made, it becomes not about the card but about what one person has and the other has not, degenerating into a form of playground teasing that is intended to provoke.
 
Think I'm goona get an 8800GTX, haven't had an nvidia card since my old GF4ti4600! lol.

I'm not gonna spend £500 on it though,

1 I sell my old GPU, should get around £200
2 I shop around, it can be had for a lot less than £500 believe me!

Is it crazy spending this much on a GPU, possibly, but it seems that this card really does offer an exponential gain over previous GPU's.

I don't really see R600 surpassing this card but if it does maybe I'll buy one of those two, prolly get a good price for my 8800GTX and the cycle goes again. Plus you put a bit of money away or something in the meantime!

Think the point overall is if you can afford one - why not? :)
 
trojan698 said:
Of course its not just for posing, it's not a hat. But when inflammatory remarks such as


and




are made, it becomes not about the card but about what one person has and the other has not, degenerating into a form of playground teasing that is intended to provoke.
Although to be fair this all started because a while back a few people said they were looking forward to buying G80s when they came out and/or DX10 and Vista.

There were a few people that since then have posted in every thread that the "G80 is a rip off", "DX10 is no different from DX9 and there wont be any games for it worth having for a year or two" and continualy going on about how anyone buying a G80 has more money than sense, "£500 for a video card, you must have mummys credit card" "2 weeks rent on a GPU that is no better than my <insert card of your choice here>".

Sooner or later it just sounds like sour grapes and is bound to get a response.

Like I said, if someone doesn't want a G80 fine, just let the people that have spent their hard earned money on one enjoy it. This is a hardware enthusiasts based forum so there's going to be lots of chat about this stuff (Kentsfield next, then R600). If you don't like people posting they have the latest and greatest then this may not be the forum for you /shrug.
 
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easyrider said:
So I'm bored of all the threads dotted about saying its pointless anyone spending 500 quid on a gfx card ....


When "you cannot use DX 10 features"

Well just to put the record staright.Unless you have experienced gaming with one and have had the pleasure of the IQ and speed over GX2 costing only 120 less.Then I suggest you stop moaning and groaning saying its pointless and futile.And my games run fine enough already etc...

Like many others that have got rid of old cards. Myself INCLUDED. The GX2 that I had I thought ran all games the way I wanted, I was put wrong when I installed this card 8800GTX in my pc.

It is a milestone in GFX technology.

Thanks

Easyrider.

*cheers from croud*

:)
 
Tute said:
What on earth is it really going to do that Dx9 cards can't? Dx10 is like the jump to Dx9c... pretty much nothing at all.
Considering this DX10 card can outperform DX9 cards by almost double the performance and sometimes more than double the performance, then I would say it can render DX10 at atleast twice as good as DX9 cards could do if capable, which they aren't so thats two things it can do that DX9 cards can't.
Also, for some people (like me) that will mean I have playable framerates and good looking graphics at the same time.

Tute said:
It's not much of a jump from a GX2 either
Is that based on experience of actually owning both a GX2 and a 8800GTX or just one of them or none of them? also how would you define "not much of a jump"?

Tute said:
if you want a big jump, try FX5950U to 6800U. That's a notable jump.
It's a big jump or a notable jump, which is it? why you would want someone to go and buy a FX5950U and upgrade to a 6800U just so they can see big/notable jump is a little odd just so you can prove a point.

Tute said:
All this "it's worth it for IQ nonsense"
Nonsense? what if they believe it is worth it for the IQ, It doesn't mean it's nonsense as they believe it is worth it. :rolleyes:

Tute said:
since when did you buy games to look at pretty lights and wall textures?
Well I've been buying games to look at pretty lights and wall textures for years, hence the reason I buy a new graphics card when I think I need to upgrade or want to upgrade or just because I can afford to upgrade.

Tute said:
Doesn't anyone PLAY games anymore?
Yes quite often infact, another reason I like to keep my PC/GPU up to date.

Tute said:
If you want that, go out on the moors or something. That's more of a detailed and beautiful view than any graphics card will ever give.
Why should I go out on the moors just because you said so? and just because it gives a more detailed and beautiful view than any graphics card will ever give? I dont want to go out on the moors thank you very much, especially not at times like 11 o'clock at night. :rolleyes:

Tute said:
And no, I don't care about what you spend on cards.
Really, it sounds like you DO care going off at least one of your posts, and I quote "To some people, FIVE HUNDRED QUID is TWO MONTHS RENT. Yes, that's right. They can have a roof eover their heads, or the most overpriced card in existence". If that isn't caring about what people spend their money on I dont know what is. :confused:

Tute said:
I'm just putting the facts down for would-be-buyers who actually believe that this card will radically change their lives.
Facts? I must have missed them then :o , Ill have a look around for them, but in the meantime if you would be so kind to point me to them I would be most grateful. :)
 
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it has always been the same though unfortunately, some idiots posting in every thread about the latest piece of hardware being too expensive, you think they would have learned now what the average price is for new hardware and if they dont like it, maybe performance pcs (and this forum) are not for you

it was the same when pci-e came out, same for dual cores, same for SLI...but if you look at the price of what you were bitching about now, its dropped by HUNDREDS and second hand some of it can be had for much less...

when I bought my rig it was brand new and cost me lots and lots of money....

7800gtx - £370....now worth about £130
same with the other one
3500+ - £180....now worth about £40
2gig Corsair - £170....now worth about £50-60

it goes on, so stop whining about how expensive things are when they first come out, if you really dont wana buy it then just wait 6 months and im sure these nice £500 8800's will be selling for closer to £200 on the MM

and while you do your waiting, shut up and let the people who want to enjoy the new when its actually new do it now
 
Athanor said:
Although to be fair this all started because a while back a few people said they were looking forward to buying G80s when they came out and/or DX10 and Vista.

There were a few people that since then have posted in every thread that the G80 isn't worth the money, DX10 is no different from DX9 and there wont be any games for it worth having for a year or two and continualy going on about how anyone buying a G80 has more money than sense, "£500 for a video card, you must have mummys credit card" "2 weeks rent on a GPU that is no better than my <insert card of your choice here>". Yada yada yada.

Sooner or later it just sounds like sour graps and is bound to get a response.

Like I said, if you don't want a g80 fine, just let the people that have spent their hard earned money on one enjoy it. This is a hardware enthusiasts based forum so there's going to be lots of chat about this stuff (Kentsfield next, then R600). If you don't like people posting they have the latest and greatest then this may not be the forum for you /shrug.


So true, I've got a great idea, lets count all the posts from the regular peeps that have done this...

I'm guessing Loadsamoney will be leading the table...

Loadsamoney....about 70-80?
Your name here?

:p
 
MuSsEr said:
2gig Corsair - £170....now worth about £50-60

trust its worth more than that ddr is now more expensive i got 2gb cas2 xms from ocuk months ago it cost £140 now its worth £205. I managed to sell my sticks on that auction site for the same price I bought it for. :p ;)
 
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lmao, o wel thats good then, looks like im gona have more money to upgrade to quad core than I thought then when I sell this rig :D
 
Green eye monster is working overtime in this thread :p


Nah, Seriously, I've had the exact same debate with a friend. I told him last night i was buying the 8800, and he was like. OMGZWTFLOL.

Seriously..he was.

Anyways. He says why buy one, DX10 doesnt comeout for months, And 1st gen technology is always buggy, So good luck! He was being sarcastic with the good luck

Basically, He also see's quadcore as a waste of time too, Same reason..Nothing uses 4 cores... (I believe when he says nothing, He refers to games, as i'm sure most people know a few apps will take advantage :) )

But anyways, It annoys me so much, I understand he's allowed his opinion, But this same guy when out and payed just under 400 quid for a 7900 when it first came out!

In MY opinon, Doesnt it make more sense, If you can afford it, to buy technology that will benefit in the future instead of going out of date.

You buy a 8800 now, It work better than ANY DX9 card on the market. and then when DX10 is released, It will then get another legup over the DX9 cards as it will support DX10 at which point if DX9 card owners want the full experience of games, they will now have to go out and pay for yet again another card, which will cost them more than buying the single 8800 now.

So do the maths, 7950 owners will have spent what? 300-400 on their cards? 8800 users have spent 500 on their cards?

In 4 or 5 months, 8800 owners will not have to spend anymore cash,

In 4 or 5 months 7950 owners wanting DX10 will have to spend another £500 on a new card, Unless they get an 8800 which will have probably dropped in price a little bit. But then again, If these owners sell their 7950s in a few months time, They will also be worth less on the second hand market.
 
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I wish people would stop bitching about the card and whether it's worth having. If you really want it, and you can afford it, then buy it...

I have bought one, and will shortly be buying a 680i board and another... Why? Not really because I needed it ( I had a pair of modded 7900gt's in SLi before), but because I really, really wanted it - and I have saved the money to be in a position to get one, or two...

I look forward to playing DX10 games on it, and am currently just blown away by it's general existence... nVidia beat ATi to the punch, in style, and I'm very happy about it.

(This doesn't mean I wont be dropping the cards for XFire r600 if that turns out much better...).
 
Eh, ive always said ive got nothing against buying the G80, its an absolutely stonking card, and if ppl are going to buy them then great, they are getting a truly awesome card, i have been complaining about the ppl who have been endlessly trashing threads after someone has posted recommending a Dx9 card saying 'You must not buy a Dx9 card anymore, you have to buy the G80, it is the only card you must buy from now on' which is different. :)
 
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MuSsEr said:
you say that to me after THIS thread? ha
Yes, there is no need to simply call someone an idiot, especially in a thread that is so obviously bait for people like him.

easyrider said:
Well just to put the record staright.Unless you have experienced gaming with one and have had the pleasure of the IQ and speed over GX2 costing only 120 less.Then I suggest you stop moaning and groaning saying its pointless and futile.And my games run fine enough already etc...

That is part the opening post. We know these forums well enough to know why a thread like this was started and how it will go on. Simply calling someone an idiot doesn't help or get your point across any better.
 
The 8800GTX is the quickest card, IQ is awsome and chances are it WILL change your gaming experience.
The people who buy a GTX now at launch are the same type who'll buy an R600 when its launched, and probably a 8900GTX when its launched. Doesn't matter whether they need the performance or not. Doesn't matter that, with a few hours work their 8800GTX will match a 8900 speed wise. That's their choice.

For most of us, it's certainly worth waiting to see what R600 brings, or what the die shrink/8900GTX performance is like. These cards WILL be faster than the current performance king.
 
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