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Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread
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For gaming, this is the best you can get. A solid increase over the 9900k. It's scary how well Intel's 5 year old architecture is holding up - Intel will completely wipe the floor with AMD when they are able to launch a high end 10/7nm next gen architecture, courtesy of Jim Keller. That's likely to be another Sandy Bridge moment for Intel.
Jayz video wasn’t really worth watching. Shame as I like him generally. He has got other videos on the way.
wow how low can you go.
Honestly nothing surprising here. Looks like you are going to be needing an AIO and with that a 360 size minimum to really get the performance expected from them and tbh custom watercooling. They are priced about 20% too high on average across stack price wise to compete in terms of performance to cost. It is indeed the best out there for gaming still but you are paying for it.
@Dave2150 , not sure where you are seeing the solid increase over the 9900k, for the most part it seems to be within a few percent at most, certainly from the HU video from the games they tested. Would still be better of buying a 9900k if you can find one for around £420 if you wanted the best gaming setup. It doesn't need quite as exotic cooling, is within that few % and has got no bugs, all ironed out.
In terms of testing with the Prism cooler I think this is good because it honestly shows what you get out the box from AMD and puts them in a good light to show that they perform tbh pretty well for their price and you really don't need exotic cooling for them to get 95% of their performance unlike Intel.
Edit: only problem of course is that currently the 9900k is still £500 and they don't appear to have any reduction to get them to match the 3900x. AMD literally doesn't have any reason to respond to this.
@Dave2150 , not sure where you are seeing the solid increase over the 9900k, for the most part it seems to be within a few percent at most, certainly from the HU video from the games they tested. Would still be better of buying a 9900k if you can find one for around £420 if you wanted the best gaming setup. It doesn't need quite as exotic cooling, is within that few % and has got no bugs, all ironed out.
In terms of testing with the Prism cooler I think this is good because it honestly shows what you get out the box from AMD and puts them in a good light to show that they perform tbh pretty well for their price and you really don't need exotic cooling for them to get 95% of their performance unlike Intel.
Edit: only problem of course is that currently the 9900k is still £500 and they don't appear to have any reduction to get them to match the 3900x. AMD literally doesn't have any reason to respond to this.
Its 5% at best.... i just don't understand how some people can think 5% is good, are our expectations from Intel so low now that we get excited over 5%? I mean its been like this for a while...... Intel have spent the best part of the last decade getting better by 5% or less increments and people actually think that is good, that's just strange to me.....
I'm not taking away the fact that yes Intel is best for high end gaming, very true but to get so positive everytime Intel release a new CPU that is practically the same as the last is mad. No wonder Intel just rebrand the same CPU over and over again.... they know you will love it.
I'm looking forward to Zen 3, i already knew what Intel had to offer with this launch, virtually nothing.
nice one, made me chuckleHaha yeah, it'd only be 18c today if they weren't doing all those reviews.
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Forgive me if I am wrong, but
1) The 10900k doesn't come with a stock cooler
2) 3900x doesn't really overclock better when super-cooled by a monster AIO vs some cheap air cooler Isn't the difference about 2%?
Its more than 2%, they are very temperature sensitive, once they get over 65c they start to drop the clocks, after 70c quite dramatically and a 3900X on its box cooler will run at over 80c.
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Edit : its not a bad box cooler, I know he also used that box cooler, he shouldn't have, it does effect performance.
Why not use the same cooler for both CPU's, what's the problem?
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It doesn't really matter anyway, if you're comparing CPU's in a review where both CPU's have any sensitivity to performance in regards to temperature running one on a £150 AIO and the other on a £20 box cooler you're not being genuine.
Why not use the same cooler for both CPU's, what's the problem?
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It doesn't really matter anyway, if you're comparing CPU's in a review where both CPU's have any sensitivity to performance in regards to temperature running one on a £150 AIO and the other on a £20 box cooler you're not being genuine.
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tempted to go for the 10700k, I have a 6700k at 4.7 but cod and battlefield are stuttery as heck, check hwinfo and cpu is absoutley maxed on every core, I have 2070s and play at 1440p but if the frametime and minimums improve which im guessing they will it will be worth it, ooorrr could go the 3700x route and upgrade zen 4 when it comes out, eugh choices 
only use pc for gaming otherwise Id take the plunge on amd
only use pc for gaming otherwise Id take the plunge on amdtempted to go for the 10700k, I have a 6700k at 4.7 but cod and battlefield are stuttery as heck, check hwinfo and cpu is absoutley maxed on every core, I have 2070s and play at 1440p but if the frametime and minimums improve which im guessing they will it will be worth it, ooorrr could go the 3700x route and upgrade zen 4 when it comes out, eugh choices
either way you have to change the whole platform..... if you're planning on keeping it as long as you did the 6700K i would wait a bit longer for Zen 3.
We know what we have from Intel now, its a very good upgrade from your 4 core but things are moving to much higher threading, you usually get more from AMD for your money and you don't want to be stuck with a CPU that again gets choked by a lack of threads in 2 or 3 years.
tempted to go for the 10700k, I have a 6700k at 4.7 but cod and battlefield are stuttery as heck, check hwinfo and cpu is absoutley maxed on every core, I have 2070s and play at 1440p but if the frametime and minimums improve which im guessing they will it will be worth it, ooorrr could go the 3700x route and upgrade zen 4 when it comes out, eugh choices
At 1440p with a 2070s i'd doubt you'd know the difference between an AMD or Intel system in a "blind" test, they would be that close it would be impossible to tell them apart (apart from the extra ££ left in your wallet for an AMD system, and the fact the room might be a bit warmer with an Intel system)
I’m in a similar situation. I’ve hardly paid any attention to any cpu news as my 4770k was doing fine but it’s now starting to creak. I’m thinking about a 3900x or a 10900k. I think I might wait for the B550 boards so I can get pcie4 without the problem of active motherboard cooling.
I game at 1440p but I’d imagine in 3-4 years once those 4K 144hz HDR prices come down to something slightly reasonable I’ll get one of them.
I game at 1440p but I’d imagine in 3-4 years once those 4K 144hz HDR prices come down to something slightly reasonable I’ll get one of them.
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true, I just need a better cpu for some of the bigger open map games I play, cod on the huge maps really does play awful when running around outside, should probably wait til zen 3 but like I said it kinda sucks right now since I cant play what I want to play
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Could just buy a console in winter
Just sayin....
Just sayin....
true, I just need a better cpu for some of the bigger open map games I play, cod on the huge maps really does play awful when running around outside, should probably wait til zen 3 but like I said it kinda sucks right now since I cant play what I want to play
If you're in need get a Motherboard you're going to like for the next few years and drop a Ryzen 3600 in it for now, that will clear your performance issues up in the mean time and its cheap, you can sell it when Zen 3 hits.