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[SuperElectric]

This might be worth watching for some people on here.

Puts the CPU debate to rest, if you have older than 5600, 12400f, then you may need to upgrade to not get left behind.

Also, the B580 being CPU limited at 1080p due to driver/architecture limits explains a lot. This level of overhead probably means it won't age well.

 

[Armageus]

This might be worth watching for some people on here.

Seems like buying a 4060 for my step son was the right choice then (As he has a Ryzen 3600)

 

[Kirby Wurm]

That is a very sizeable limitation for a budget card. Hopefully it's driver based and can be resolved, makes the slightly higher overhead or Nvidia over AMD look paltry by comparison!

I'd be curious to see how much of an issue it is on a 5600 class CPU.

 

[Paramedic_Rich]

Just got my invoice a few minutes ago. Should be interesting to see if i have any issues with my 7700x

Looking forward to playing with it and getting rid of my 1070ti (i originally thought i just had the base 1070) although i feel maybe i should have gone AMD after looking at videos and spent a little more money

 

[hornetstinger]

Just got my invoice a few minutes ago. Should be interesting to see if i have any issues with my 7700x

Looking forward to playing with it and getting rid of my 1070ti (i originally thought i just had the base 1070) although i feel maybe i should have gone AMD after looking at videos and spent a little more money

7700XT from quick youtube comparison is about 20-25% faster

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[Quartz]

This might be worth watching for some people on here.

They've not done their research: Ryzen 2000 and Intel 9000 CPUs are not supported.

How to Check if my Processor Supports Intel® Arc™ Graphics

List of compatible processors with Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics cards.

www.intel.com

 

[Armageus]

They've not done their research: Ryzen 2000 and Intel 9000 CPUs are not supported.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000096161/graphics.html

Supported or not there are older systems than that list that are more than capable of running Rebar/SAM.

Furthermore it doesn't appear to be a Rebar/SAM issue, as the Hardware Unboxed shows a performance overhead on the Ryzen 2600 which is running SAM.

 

[Quartz]

Supported or not there are older systems than that list that are more than capable of running Rebar/SAM.

And the issue is clearly something else, and they're testing unsupported CPUs. On which it doesn't work so well. Whodathunkit?

 

[will0hlep]

Just got my invoice a few minutes ago. Should be interesting to see if i have any issues with my 7700x

Looking forward to playing with it and getting rid of my 1070ti (i originally thought i just had the base 1070) although i feel maybe i should have gone AMD after looking at videos and spent a little more money

The overhead issue doesn’t effect CPUs that new

 

[Auyx]

Just got my DPD email, ordered the Steel Legend Variant on the 15th. Hope everyone waiting gets there orders soon.

 

[hornetstinger]

The overhead issue doesn’t effect CPUs that new

As long as it doesn't effect new CPU I don't care if it effects older CPU's. But if I switch between 6600/4060/b580 and have similar games settings I would hope the CPU usage stays similar, and with GPU at 99% for all three.

 

[Poneros]

That is a very sizeable limitation for a budget card. Hopefully it's driver based and can be resolved, makes the slightly higher overhead or Nvidia over AMD look paltry by comparison!

I'd be curious to see how much of an issue it is on a 5600 class CPU.

It can't & won't be resolved, just like it wasn't on Nvidia (compared to AMD), and just like all the other big issues that happen on GPUs (let's not forget the myriad of issues on Alchemist) don't get "fixed" except through a new generation. It's best people accept it and just make a decision accordingly rather than hoping for fixes.

And the issue is clearly something else, and they're testing unsupported CPUs. On which it doesn't work so well. Whodathunkit?

HardwareUnboxed commented on reddit:

This is a CPU overhead issue, it's as bad with the 3600 and even problematic with the 5600.

 

[Armageus]

The overhead issue doesn’t effect CPUs that new

Careful now - you can't say that as even Ryzen 9000 Series chips aren't on the official Intel Supported list


Edit:
It's irrelevant anyway, as the link Quartz posted doesn't even mention Intel B-Series ARC

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It can't & won't be resolved, just like it wasn't on Nvidia (compared to AMD)

It was very interesting how AMD had an overhead issue in DX11 games and it got flipped the other way under DX12 with their newer designs.

TPU had to upgrade their test rig because Ada Lovelace was CPU limited on the previous generation CPUs.

It would be good if reviewers tested new dGPUs on both a fast rig and slow rig.

 

[Quartz]

HardwareUnboxed commented on reddit:

Good. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of this.

 

[mr_bobbington]

For anyone like me who's pre-ordered a Sparkle card, I called yesterday and the best ETA I could get was January.

 

[JesterAlex]

Just got a call from my partner that my Challenger has arrived! Ordered on the 16th. Got an invoice but nothing saying who it was being sent with or when!

 

[will0hlep]

Just got a call from my partner that my Challenger has arrived! Ordered on the 16th. Got an invoice but nothing saying who it was being sent with or when!

Wow, okay… I think I might give OC a call and see if I can get any details on where mine is. Don’t want to miss the delivery.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

It can't & won't be resolved

Maybe so, though surely a little premature to say that if it's a combination of hardware & software (in which case they could potentially ameliorate it).

Was this sort of testing ever done on the first generation?

HardwareUnboxed commented on reddit:

Eesh.

 

[will0hlep]

Just got off the phone mine was shipped yesterday. It’s going by Royal Mail (cause I’m a cheapskate) so it should be with me in 1-3 days.