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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Dave2150 said:
Personally I don't really care what type of cores I have, I just care about performance.

I've two systems that I use daily. 13900k for work and 7950X3D for games. Both perform very well, on a fully up to date W11 OS install with modern applications. Both are stable.

I think the majority of issues come from people that can't move on and insist on using old OS (Windows 10 etc), old software, or those that struggle to install the correct drivers/software.

It is getting a little more complicated to get the best performance out of the box these days, as it's not just a question of installing the latest software from the CD/DVD/vendor website. From my personal experience, most of these people will either buy a Mac, console or will use managed services (hardware hosted on the cloud, with provider doing the OS updates/drivers/etc).
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Some of us are using software there is no modern equivalent of, especially when it comes to obscure game modding tools, etc. that said so far I've not really had any problem in that respect on my 14700K though Windows 10/11 is trash for some productivity stuff I do.
 
Has anyone noticed that Intel never talks in detail about the upcoming node / fab process. Including what products will make use of it. They want to keep selling Intel 7 / 10nm desktop CPUs, for just a bit longer.

On the other hand, they are quite willing to discuss the one after that, in this case, 18a. Presumably, that is for investors, because frankly, who the hell else cares at this point?

The difference between 20a and 18a is clearly not going to be like Intel 7 > Intel 20a for desktop CPUs…
 
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adamsleath said:
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I think the rumour mill is getting mixed up between Luna lake and arrow lake, and now assuming it will all be TSMC built, regardless of whether it’s products for mobile or desktop.

Clearly, Intel’s priorities for mobile / desktop are not the same, as we saw with Meteor Lake.

Intel has confused things by downgrading the proposed mobile 18a product, to a variant of TSMC N3.

Anandtech is trustworthy, and wrote this article recently about Intel’s 20a and 18a: https://www.anandtech.com/show/2143...4-intel-powering-up-intel-18a-wafer-next-week

The article is unambiguous about which product series will use the new Intel 20a fab process.

Intel has invested billions in the 20a fab process, I doubt it was all for nothing. In feb 2024, it was described as ‘on track’ by Intel:
 
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ocitillo is where they are building fab 52 and fab 62.

what the google earth picture is showing I have no idea.
I have not found any specific information, not from intel anyway, that is more recent.

i dont pretend to know. I just look for information.
 
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Dave2150 said:
I think the majority of issues come from people that can't move on and insist on using old OS (Windows 10 etc), old software, or those that struggle to install the correct drivers/software.
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Funny you say that, because Windows 10 is still (even if not for much longer) fully supported by Microsoft but more importantly all the issues that emerged recently about Ryzen CPUs not having full performance under 11 and needing an OS patch just released by Microsoft, did not exist under 10, sad it turned out - as per fresh benchmarks I've seen yesterday, Windows 10 always had that good performance and Windows 11 24H2 just got on the same level 10 already has been. 23h2 even with patch is still a bit below 10 and 24h2. Sometimes old os does things better than newer yet buggy one.
 
We should expect to see a whole number of CKD modules released with Arrow Lake, as G.Skill will have it branded as CK on the marketing
 
Robert896r1 said:
wccftech.com

Intel Moves Directly To 18A Process Node, Ends 20A Plans With Arrow Lake Shifting To External Nodes

Intel has announced that it is ending its 20A production plan and shifting to 18A instead while Arrow Lake will use external nodes.
wccftech.com wccftech.com

Worst kept secret. Arl on tsmc.
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another article, similar content.
www.tomshardware.com

Intel announces cancellation of 20A process node for Arrow Lake, goes with external nodes instead, likely TSMC [Updated]

Out with the Intel node, in with TSMC.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
 
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