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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851


We are testing CUDIMM memory at present with clock generator, too early for results yet, seems pointless on AMD due to infinity fabric, doing more testing on Intel at present.

15th Gen CPU''s now available to pre-order:

 
We are testing CUDIMM memory at present with clock generator, too early for results yet, seems pointless on AMD due to infinity fabric, doing more testing on Intel at present.

15th Gen CPU''s now available to pre-order:


Thank you, sir, I'll pop an order in shortly once the Apex is shown.
 
Thank you, sir, I'll pop an order in shortly once the Apex is shown.

Don't rush its pretty much a paper launch, there will be some tray CPU's floating around early on, as we don't expect huge demand with how cheap 12th and 14th gen is now OcUK will most likely wait for the Retail stock to arrive.
 
There are a lot of people out there who despite everything are still loyal to Intel, pure gamers are going to plumb for the 7800X3D and 9800X3D, as they have since the 5800X3D but even then there are small YT channels who justify 400 watt overclocks and £300 ram kits running at 9000 MT/s to beat the 7800X3D, Intel still king.... even if that chip will last about 5 weeks.

I don't underestimate these people, look at how rabidly anti-AMD UserBenchmark are. Those people have a screw loose, Reddit has a lot of these people too, they exist. You don't find them here because here they would probably be run off the forum in about 20 minutes, there is a large contingent of 11 series and 12 series owners who have been waiting for a reason to get a new Intel CPU and actually to me it seems Arrow Lake is shaping up to be pretty good... its not going to beat AMD's gaming focused CPU's, its not going to be any more power efficient but in many ways its a significant improvement on 13'th and 14'th gen, for a lot of people that's really all it needs to be. Even for people who haven't got a screw loose with the power reductions its no longer such a clear-cut AMD choice.

It took Intel to make a giant CPU on TSMC's most advanced node to do it... so they will either be very expensive or low margin, but it is what it is...
I don't have any loyalty to either company, I used an AMD 3900x and then a 5900x on a really high end motherboard for a good few years.

And maybe it was just luck, and nothing to do with the platform, but when I switched to the Intel (12900k then 13700k) on Z690 my PC was just a lot more stable.

I'm considering getting a 9800X3D on X870E platform though.
 
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I don't have any loyalty to either company, I used an AMD 3900x and then a 5900x on a really high end motherboard for a good few years.

And maybe it was just luck, and nothing to do with the platform, but when I switched to the Intel (12900k then 13700k) on Z690 my PC was just a lot more stable.

I'm considering getting a 9800X3D on X870E platform though.

I mean... i believe you but that can go both ways, to say the least :D been running a 5800X for 4 years, rock solid.
 
We are testing CUDIMM memory at present with clock generator, too early for results yet, seems pointless on AMD due to infinity fabric, doing more testing on Intel at present.

15th Gen CPU''s now available to pre-order:

Any idea when the motherboards are going to be released\pre order?

CPU will be no good without these as its a new socket
 
No performance benefit though? Thought it might be something that interested benchmarkers?

Price difference seems negligible, £20 or so.
Nope, it will be the same in terms of performance normally silicon variations will also apply.

Yes, the price difference isn't much for what you give up.
 
For me the real canary in the silicon-mine is the CP2077 result. They didn't even use RT which would further aggravate CPU demands and still getting clobbered by the 7950X3D. Sure, it was already better than the 14900K by 15% but this likely will further increase that margin.

AMD absolutely smashed them to smithereens, and the 9950X3D will be even faster. This will lose them a LOT of boutique oem contracts (like Starforge et al) after they already had reasons to leave them due to the instability debacle. Never mind the diy market (completely gone).

Intel will be bled hard the next 2 financial quarters. This is really, really bad.
 
For me the real canary in the silicon-mine is the CP2077 result. They didn't even use RT which would further aggravate CPU demands and still getting clobbered by the 7950X3D. Sure, it was already better than the 14900K by 15% but this likely will further increase that margin.

AMD absolutely smashed them to smithereens, and the 9950X3D will be even faster. This will lose them a LOT of boutique oem contracts (like Starforge et al) after they already had reasons to leave them due to the instability debacle. Never mind the diy market (completely gone).

Intel will be bled hard the next 2 financial quarters. This is really, really bad.

I wonder if that's because lack of hyper threading CP2077 is pretty CPU heavy
 
I wonder if that's because lack of hyper threading CP2077 is pretty CPU heavy

On a quick dirty 14900KS run, I get the following for HT on and HT off

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